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Matthew Livelsberger is a patsy, the question is for who and what purpose?
Thread Reader ^ | Jan 2 , 2025 | Green Beret Nap Time

Posted on 01/04/2025 6:19:47 AM PST by george76

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To: george76

Thanks, I didn’t know that.

I was just going on intuition and observation.

That most certainly introduces a major problem. Because it seems to confirm that there is an active operation to deceive afoot.


61 posted on 01/04/2025 7:22:10 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: Jane Long

I’m all for skepticism. However, this one runs deep; on the edge of flat earth societies. Patsy is repeated at length in the article but fails to cite patsy for who or even what. It’s a reach of a conspiracy. Some just can’t accept there are whackadoodles out there that do things for litttle to absolutely no reason at all.


62 posted on 01/04/2025 7:23:31 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: Biblebelter

He was there because they forced him on Reagan.


63 posted on 01/04/2025 7:24:17 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Sarcazmo

If the email was phony that raises many more interesting questions.

Who wants the public to believe the drones are Chinese—and why?


64 posted on 01/04/2025 7:25:25 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: cgbg

I know, and that was the grain of truth inserted.

The rest of it, gravity drive, unlimited payload, etc. is, in my opinion, intended to introduce the conspiracy theory moniker to the discussion.

When that is introduced in any way, many people’s mental response is to shut their brain off for the night and go to bed.

Quite a clever and successful psyop on humans.

Just shut ‘em down when you don’t want them thinking. We have got to wake up and fight through that.


65 posted on 01/04/2025 7:27:38 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: george76
...how does it make sense that he would rent a Cybertruck, which are known to be bulletproof...

He wanted to send a warning to Trump and Musk, possibly as a precursor to something more dire.

And Cyber*ucks are not bullet proof, they are bullet resistant.

66 posted on 01/04/2025 7:29:48 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Cats For Trump 2024!)
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To: Sarcazmo

No, you are not thinking like Zelensky.

Zelensky has to accept defeat, give-up territory to Russia in order for Trump to negotiate a stop to the war.

The only message I see here is Z is going to continue fighting.

See my post here: https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4287924/posts?page=22#22


67 posted on 01/04/2025 7:30:54 AM PST by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon (1/21-))
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To: Sarcazmo

I want to see the FBI and CIA abolished.

Their ability and willingness to conduct psychological operations on the American people is a bridge too far.

They need to be gone.


68 posted on 01/04/2025 7:32:04 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: george76

and just like that, another distraction from the issue of PTSD.

I honestly believe people are so bored and empty they dream up stuff like this to add excitement to their lives. The more intrigue and mystery, the better.


69 posted on 01/04/2025 7:32:11 AM PST by Nifty
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To: cgbg

Yes, the fog of war is thick.

I have no idea what has really been going on these last 10 years or so, but am sure moves and counter-moves are being made.

I think it has to do with China declaring they would take over the world (or was it just the US?) without firing a shot.

And the 6th dimension of warfare, which is the space where this one is being fought, in my opinion.


70 posted on 01/04/2025 7:32:45 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: Jarhead9297

Sure, Jarhead.

We’ll have to agree to disagree.


71 posted on 01/04/2025 7:33:06 AM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: george76

The only thing that makes sense to me if he wanted to destroy the hotel, is that he thought the batteries would catch fire. That would have caused quite a bit of damage since they burn so hot and are difficult to extinguish. Otherwise why bother? What makes more sense is that he was shot before hand, and the shooter escaped, except how did he avoid cameras? This whole thing stinks.


72 posted on 01/04/2025 7:33:38 AM PST by Omnivore-Dan (Shut)
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To: Nifty

Who, you mean the guy that did it or the people trying to figure out what happened?


73 posted on 01/04/2025 7:33:56 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: nitzy
>>leaving out the email that he sent

If the gov agencies (FIBs +) control his Signal account, then they can control his email account(s).

.

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*A FReeper I’ve known for almost forty years had been trying for several years to get me to move to Signal since his defense contractor employer had FIB approval to use such.

For me, joining Signal would be throwing a flag to the FIBs since they would have all the encryption keys.

74 posted on 01/04/2025 7:34:28 AM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Deaf Smith

It is extremely dangerous for anyone to believe their communications are secret.

The more they believe it the more likely they are to do something really dumb.

Carrier pigeons may be safe.


75 posted on 01/04/2025 7:37:16 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: george76

Suicide is a huge problem in the military & veteran community. Suicide is irrational behavior so why would anybody be surprised that it would be undertaken in an irrational way. Conspiracy theorists who see a government agent behind every blade of grass, seem to ignore that.


76 posted on 01/04/2025 7:39:12 AM PST by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, black Trump supporter, executed in the street in broad daylight 2020.)
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To: george76
According to his emails, his mission as he set it out, was not to do harm to others, but merely draw attention to his message. If you take that message to be true & accurate, then what this person does not add up, is only because he ignores what his actions were really about.

It is all predicate on how you want to view the message he wanted discussion to be about. It wasn't his actions at all that he wanted people to focus on. Had he created real damage, then his message would be ignored. So focus on his message, not his actions.

77 posted on 01/04/2025 7:42:15 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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Matthew competed on a reality TV show years ago. He was also a bodyguard to an ambassador. A recent assignment took him to Ukraine. He was working “with drones” at the time of his death.

Here’s the reality show:

https://youtu.be/9n1wdfJouSg?si=zLnbG_0kcvd3Rr0N


78 posted on 01/04/2025 7:43:49 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: XRdsRev

Sometimes suicide can be induced by government conspiracies.

Here is one example that is very well documented:

https://www.amazon.com/Project-Beta-Bennewitz-National-Security/dp/0743470923


79 posted on 01/04/2025 7:43:58 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: Sarcazmo

Psyops are the specialty of Ft Hood, where this guy, Ryan Routh, and the New Orleans terrorist all spent time.

And it seems to me that the army spokesperson who spoke on the podcast was doing disinformation, claiming that Matt’s child is not his own as shown by DNA testing. Why would the military do DNA testing, or why would they know about any DNA testing done on Matt’s child? I presume that’s not something they would have in a file even if Matt himself had had testing done, so why would an army spokesperson come out with this? It doesn’t make sense. If Matt was receiving any kind of counseling through the military, that could be discloseable, but to disclose something like this? But the people who knew him said he was solid.

I think we need to get to the bottom of how his encryption stuff was changed. Who did it, when, how, and why? We need to know that. Everything else that comes out means nothing, until we are able to know what is really from him and what is from somebody wanting us to think it was him.


80 posted on 01/04/2025 7:45:05 AM PST by butterdezillion
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