Posted on 09/01/2024 7:58:34 AM PDT by House Atreides
Operational analysis of Russia's offensive towards Pokrovsk. The entire Southern Donbas Front is at risk of falling into enemy hands. Urgent Ukrainian reinforcements are needed.
But those constantly screaming about Nazis in Ukraine do not seem to care.
Their tactics here tell you EXACTLY who they are.
This web address for the graphic is interesting, coming from Euromaidan Press.
Whois reports the domain is registered to Robert van Voren in the Netherlands.
The bottom of the various pages notes the site states it is supported by the "International Renaissance Foundation."
Wikipedia states "The International Renaissance Foundation (IRF) (Ukrainian: Міжнародний фонд "Відродження") is a Ukrainian NGO founded by George Soros.[1] It was founded in April 1990. IRF is an integral part of the Open Society Foundations which incorporates national and regional foundations in more than thirty countries around the world, primarily in Central and Eastern Europe, as well as the former Soviet Union. These foundations share a common goal of supporting educational, social and legal initiatives that promote the development and establishment of an open society."
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Renaissance_Foundation
A Google search for the image shows it has been passed around throught Facebook and some Polish blogs.
It would be interesting to further look into the original article which Euromaidan Press apparently has published. Haven't found it yet. But it is a Ukrainian source under the auspices of the Soros foundation.
All graphics posted to FR carry their web addresses,
Zahlreiche Neonazis kämpfen in der Ukraine für Russland (Numerous neo-Nazis fight in Ukraine for Russia)
Of course there is also the open and official use of Stalinist symbols by the Russians which no one seems to care about.
I read Der Spiegel for years when we were legal residents of Germany. The article specifically relates to that BND document while not linking to it, in like manner to some of the English language reporting.
Nonetheless, this and so much else underscores that there are "Nazi" elements on both sides of the officially non-NATO war between two non-NATO nations.
Leaving some of us American conservatives to ask that no more American "treasure" be expended in this mess. This in the larger framework of a public debt now well over $35 trillion, and rising fast. THAT is the issue. Not the Nazi past of Ukraine or its Right Sector today, nor of neo-Nazi elements in Russia. Let them sort it out without the Democrats and Nuland's fine "F---- Europe" diplomacy and the princelings of the Biden, Pelosi, Kerry and Romney families having harvested their riches from this whole mess.
Playing the "our Nazis versus their Nazis" is not the frame of a debate to my view. $35 trillion in debt is my focus. Apparently not yours.
As for the question of aid to Ukraine, complaining about $175 billion out of a $35 billion debt (0.5%) seems a bit disingenuous. Against this has to place the results of a Russian victory. Do not fool yourself, such a victory would destabilize Europe and in the end cost us much more and imperil our security. The world would have been much safer and the cost in both lives and material much smaller if Hitler had been stopped at the Austrian Anschluss or at Munich rather waiting for his invasion of Poland.
That should have read “$175 billion out of $35 trillion.”
Says our angry pro-Russian impotent Walls of Text clown.
"Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts."
No, I don't "believe" anything on the internet, but some reports are less unbelievable than others, so I try to find the least unbelievable information available.
It's the best we can do in these times.
Jumper: "The Youtuber may be originally from the States, but I thought he was in Belarus."
Nothing in my searches turned up information about History Legends Alexandre Robert in Belarus.
Jumper: "His channel covers historical military and current events.
He reports on Ukraine using mostly non-Biden approved MSM sources.
People outside the west have access to far more accurate information than what Ukraine feeds England and the US.
Ukraine is a poor source for news.
Everything they feed via their PAO has little basis foe accuracy."
In my experience, virtually every word flowing from the Kremlin's information sewer pipes is a lie.
And propaganda which originates with Moscow's Ministry for Agitation and Propaganda is also lies & nonsense intended to confuse & befuddle its audience.
Indeed, my understanding of Russians themselves is they know full well their government speaks to them in lies, which can sometimes be "decoded" by those "in the know", but just as often are intended to conceal the truth from everyone, including the government itself.
What about reports from Ukraine?
Well, there are a lot of independent reporters both in Ukraine and outside observers looking at available data.
These don't always agree with Ukrainian reports, but they don't always disagree either.
Jumper: "Russia continues to focus on destruction of the AFU. With the destruction comes land gains.
To that end, they have taken a slow artillery and FAB strategy, using stand off explosives to blow Ukraine out of fortified positions. Russia has no where near the casualities Ukraine has suffered. In January 24 Zelinski peddled the lie od only 32,000 KIAs in the Uke military in 24 months.
None of numbers reported by Ukraine are true.
They inflate Russian losses and minimize their own."
And Russians do the reverse.
This site lists several estimates of Russian and Ukrainian total losses.
They include:
MediaZona estimates work out to around 500,000 Russian casualties.
Ukraine's armed forces are put at circa 1,200,000 total, of whom a small portion are at the front on any given day.
Ukraine's defensive strategy in the Donbas has been to slowly give up ground in exchange for massively disproportionate Russian casualties in Russian "Meat Wave" assaults.
Thank you very much for this information:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4262106/posts?page=227#227
Kudos on stating the existing Biden-Harris neo-liberal (quite the same as the Nuland-Obama neo-con) argument and current policy in place. I disagree with the Biden-Harris argument, I disagree with Nuland and Obama, and so disagree with you.
Vote Trump to disrupt the deep state and Democrats.
Oh, stop with the “Biden-Harris neo-liberal” guilt by association. There are plenty of rock solid conservatives that hold the same position. I could turn the table on you with “Kudos on stating the existing Putin Russian nationalist argument. I disagree with Putin and so I disagree with you.” All your personal attack does is show that you cannot defend your position logically. Do you really think that the world would be a safer place with allowing Russia the freedom to invade and subjugate its neighbors?
“Do you really think that the world would be a safer place with allowing Russia the freedom to invade and subjugate its neighbors?”
Thank you. Deeply appreciate your comment.
Are all these Biden-Harris neo-liberals angry because their precious Ukraine Project is going down in flames?
Whatever will they do when their Kursk salient gets popped like a zit?
Nice gambit. That gambit requires there be but two positions/stances allowed. There are more than two and have been through this entire officially non-NATO war between two non-NATO nations. There are more than two, and moreover you are not spokesman for "plenty of rock solid conservatives."
Currently the Biden-Harris administration and Europeans like the German coalition and the Polish administration have stated outright that there is precious little more in war material to pump into this officially non-NATO war. A phrase some in the UK press say is "tapped out." In the latest from Das Bild some similar changes are occurring in the moment. And of course in Ukraine a massive change in the Zelensky government happened only yesterday.
So that proverbial Overton window is being yanked open with a rush of reality's winds. As the title of this thread states, "The Ukrainian Front in Donbas is Collapsing." And the US debt climbs by a trillion every three months. So your "it's only a small percentage" argument is rather like spitting into the wind. Doesn't work out well.
I repeat: "Vote Trump to disrupt the deep state and Democrats." Care to argue with that?
“Says our angry pro-Russian impotent Walls of Text clown.”
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Thank you for this info.
Thus, kiryandil is posting miles-long posts himself...
I couldn’t believe it... it’s so long, I’m surprised it didn’t crash the Free Republic servers...
So what do we learn from all this... ?
We learn that the key to Russian behavior is :
“Do what I say, but don’t do what I do...”
It's an image.
>>>>It’s an image.<<<<
Their tiny, pea-sized, zeeper brains can’t grasp that fact.
All they understand is yours is longer.
They’ve got post envy.
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