[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "I could turn the table on you...."

Nice gambit. That gambit requires there be but two positions/stances allowed. There are more than two and have been through this entire officially non-NATO war between two non-NATO nations. There are more than two, and moreover you are not spokesman for "plenty of rock solid conservatives."

Currently the Biden-Harris administration and Europeans like the German coalition and the Polish administration have stated outright that there is precious little more in war material to pump into this officially non-NATO war. A phrase some in the UK press say is "tapped out." In the latest from Das Bild some similar changes are occurring in the moment. And of course in Ukraine a massive change in the Zelensky government happened only yesterday.

So that proverbial Overton window is being yanked open with a rush of reality's winds. As the title of this thread states, "The Ukrainian Front in Donbas is Collapsing." And the US debt climbs by a trillion every three months. So your "it's only a small percentage" argument is rather like spitting into the wind. Doesn't work out well.

I repeat: "Vote Trump to disrupt the deep state and Democrats." Care to argue with that?

[BroJoeK]

Worldtraveler once upon a time to Petrosius: "That gambit requires there be but two positions/stances allowed.
There are more than two and have been through this entire officially non-NATO war between two non-NATO nations.
There are more than two,... "

For voters there are effectively only two positions/stances allowed -- we either support aid for Ukraine, or we don't.
Sure, leaders like a Donald Trump or Slow Biden, they may have many shades and variations they can propose and make happen, but for average citizens, it comes down to "yes" or "no".

Among US voters, according to polls:

1. ~2/3 of Democrats support Ukraine aid, 1/3 oppose
2. ~1/3 of Republicans support Ukraine aid, 2/3 oppose.

In the US Congress:

1. Almost every Democrat in the House and Senate voted for Ukraine aid in April 2024.

2. Nearly 1/2 of House Republicans and 2/3 of Senate Republicans supported that Ukraine aid bill.

3. In my Pennsylvania -- the Keystone swing state -- five of eight Republican congressmen voted for Ukraine aid, two opposed and one abstained.

Worldtraveler once upon a time to Petrosius: "and moreover you are not spokesman for "plenty of rock solid conservatives.""

Obviously, that depends on anybody's definitions of the term, "rock solid conservative".

According to Heritage even the most "centrist" House Republican Congressman is more conservative than the most "conservative" Democrat.

1. 1/4 of Republicans in the House & Senate score 90% or above in Heritage's ranking.

2. 1/2 of Republicans score between 90% and 60%

3. 1/4 of Republicans score less than = 60%

4. Zero Republicans (excluding Senate RINOs Romney, Murkowski, & Collins) score less than any Democrat.

Among Senate Republicans scoring over 80% on the Heritage measure, all voted "no" on the April 2024 Ukraine aid bill.
Among Senate Republicans scoring under 80%, nearly all voted "yes".

So, who is "rock solid conservative"?
Depends on your definitions, but all real Republicans are more "rock solid" than any Democrat.

Worldtraveler once upon a time to Petrosius: "Currently the Biden-Harris administration and Europeans like the German coalition and the Polish administration have stated outright that there is precious little more in war material to pump into this officially non-NATO war. "

But NATO has officially sided with Ukraine in its war against Russian invasion.
See my post here for NATO declarations

NATO's problem is that some countries have already contributed more than their "fair share" to Ukraine, while others have fallen far behind.
Here is a listing of NATO contributions to Ukraine, as percentages of each country's GDP:

1. 1.8% Denmark
2. 1.7% Estonia
3. 1.4% Lithuania
4. 1.4% Latvia
5. .9% Finland
6. .8% Sweden
7. .7% Poland
8. .6% Slovakia
9. .6% Netherlands
10. .5% Norway
11. .5% Czechia
12. .5% UK
13. .4% Croatia
14. .4% Canada
15. .4% Germany
16. .4% Belgium
17. .4% USA
18. 21 other countries -- including Japan, Australia, South Korea & New Zealand -- with lower % of GDP contributions.

The basic problem is that, while some have contributed substantially, others not so much.

Worldtraveler once upon a time to Petrosius: "And the US debt climbs by a trillion every three months.
So your "it's only a small percentage" argument is rather like spitting into the wind.
Doesn't work out well."

The US national debt is almost 100% a function of Democrats' insanities, nothing else.
The problem will begin to end when those insanities are eliminated from Federal government.

In the meantime... Solid Conservative Republican Pres. Reagan won the Cold War against the old Soviet Union (and KGB Lt.Col. Vladimir Putin) by increasing US defense spending to 6% of GDP.
Today we spend barely half that much and people wonder why we seem so incapable militarily these days.

It's no mystery -- if you want Peace Through Strength, such as Pres. Reagan achieved, first, first, first, you need military strength.

Everything else comes second.