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I took a bit of time to dissect the “spy balloon” story - both how it is portrayed in the US and China’s response. As you'll see, the more you think about it, the more stunned you get at the sheer absurdity of the whole thing.

Posted on 02/05/2023 1:41:38 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: balloon; china; spyballoon
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To: lee martell

If they were smart the people of Taiwan,Hong Kong,Japan and South Korea would be pooping their pants right now. The Butchers of Beijing are showing that The Big Guy is *absolutely* not to be feared.


81 posted on 02/05/2023 4:56:51 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: euram

Musta been to rub our noses in it and humiliate us before the global community


82 posted on 02/05/2023 5:08:35 PM PST by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

bkmk


83 posted on 02/05/2023 5:10:19 PM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: 353FMG

The Hindenburg was not a balloon, it was a dirigible, with pretty substantial engine power for it’s day.


84 posted on 02/05/2023 5:29:32 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Entire story reeks of disinformation from both sides:

1. There is nothing the Chinese would get from a balloon that they couldn’t already get from satellite.
2. It was detected so early and tracked for so long, we had DAYS to move anything they might have accidently discovered.
3.Technically, they had no reason to send a “spy balloon over the US.
4. So, it was a propaganda effort.

From our side:
5. They had ample opportunity to shoot it down over the open plains of Montana and South Dakota.
6. They waited to shoot it down over water. So no farmers or hunters could see what was actually in it.

It is all for show.


85 posted on 02/05/2023 5:52:45 PM PST by Bryan24
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To: Gay State Conservative

Mission Accomplished, and for a fraction of the usual cost for effective propaganda.


86 posted on 02/05/2023 5:58:29 PM PST by lee martell
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To: lee martell
Is there a basic summation of the data available? Just asking the question.

1: My guess (and I haven't heard anyone mention this) is that since the balloon could be controlled remotely...It was transmitting data remotely. Meaning it really had no "hard drive" to store any info.

So it is even MORE infuriating that it was allowed to fly--and Unkkkle Joe let it happen.

2: We don't have the tech to send up a drone and "gently" capture it? The debris field was supposedly 7 miles. That means we shot it down caveman style. This is the BEST we could do?

We are in deep shit, my friends.

87 posted on 02/05/2023 6:03:49 PM PST by Captainpaintball (America needs a CONSERVATIVE dictator to return it to a Constitutional Republic. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

3: Pfizer was proven, with the help of James O Keefe’s latest undercover video, to be doing exactly what we thought they were doing. Talk radio did the bare minimum on it. Fux likely did even less. So if the Government Media Matrix wants to suppress anything, they will. WHY did this all of a sudden become news?


88 posted on 02/05/2023 6:07:39 PM PST by Captainpaintball (America needs a CONSERVATIVE dictator to return it to a Constitutional Republic. )
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To: Captainpaintball
Talk radio did the bare minimum on it.

Alex Jones was screaming a warning at the top of his lungs about it, and he was right.

But the Soros press says Alex Jones talked about Newtown, so he can be safely disregarded.

89 posted on 02/05/2023 6:10:45 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: Bryan24

Not true. Low earth surveillance does lots of things that satellites cannot ever do. For instance, mapping cell and wi-fI footprints, and scooping their data. Since Global Strike (Minuteman III) personnel communicate using various devices that use high frequency, they cannot be intercepted from space.

There is a reason why our military has C-130 EW, and P-8 aircraft that can loiter off the coast of hostile nations - because satellites are mostly for observing infrastructure - whereas low earth platforms are for surveillance of people and their communications.

The Chinese Spy airship wasn’t for taking pictures, it was for signal intelligence.


90 posted on 02/05/2023 6:19:06 PM PST by safisoft
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To: Captainpaintball

Indeed!


91 posted on 02/05/2023 6:26:26 PM PST by lee martell
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To: jimtorr

The winds aloft are not uniform in their direction. By lowering or increasing altitude you can control direction. Go to the NOAA website and you can read this information for various altitudes.


92 posted on 02/05/2023 7:07:58 PM PST by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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To: safisoft

As open as our country is, I assume that China has already mapped pretty much every signal that can be picked up by a moving vehicle.

There are satellite systems capable of SigInt.

https://spp.fas.org/military/program/sigint/

Just the first google search.

If China wasn’t continuously uploading, they got nothing.

I still think it was a ruse by China for other reasons.


93 posted on 02/05/2023 8:23:28 PM PST by Bryan24
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I took the time to read this person’s thread, and I am now dumber for consuming their logic.


94 posted on 02/05/2023 9:31:46 PM PST by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: M_Continuum

Xi is mocking O’biden.

Don’t kid yourself, our NR is 2nd to nobody. Nor is the NSA.

But DC? Snake Pit full of Traitors.


95 posted on 02/06/2023 4:37:53 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: 353FMG; SunkenCiv; Red Badger; Kaslin; BenLurkin; Liz

Hindenburg was powered by large diesels driving propellers.

Balloons drift with the wind, but by deliberating changing altitudes into and out of the different winds at the different heights, they can “steer” in general directions from west to east. Never able to go directly against the local winds at any given altitude though.


96 posted on 02/06/2023 4:51:39 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: safisoft

Bump.

Elon Musk knows how important low orbit is.

The Chi Coms “get it”.


97 posted on 02/06/2023 4:59:22 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: jimtorr

It was more of a blimp/dirigible than an outright balloon.

There was a rudder, and some sort of propulsion.

Plus the infamous “payload” spoken of by the Air Farce General.


98 posted on 02/06/2023 7:05:53 AM PST by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: Texas Fossil

Nobody needs to mock Biden. He makes a fool of himself daily. The balloon dropped below where they normally fly. We don’t know if it’s China, it could be our own. Look how consumed folks are. An impressive distraction.


99 posted on 02/06/2023 10:46:05 AM PST by M_Continuum
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