Posted on 08/22/2021 1:34:48 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell
This is the question that may be partly responsible for vaccine hesitancy -- those who believe that the last days may be imminent are reluctant to take on the "mark of the beast."
I think the general context is fairly well known. A seven headed, ten horned "beast" arises in the last days, is assisted by various other figures, makes an alliance with a great red dragon, and enforces a "mark" to be taken in the hand or forehead that is required for participation in the beast's "reign of antichrist" society.
The vaccine qualifies in some estimations because you can have a piece of paper (in your hand) or knowledge (in your forehead) of vaccination, using this as your passport to participate fully in the current society.
Moreover, the modern globalist society seems to approximate the seven headed beast. It has certainly made alliances with the dragon, and is assisted by another beast in the image of a lamb (our mainstream media).
Looking into this further, I discovered that seven heads and ten horns is not just symbolic. The G7 countries would represent seven heads. Ten horns was a bit more complicated, but I realized that a horn was probably a leader (in other Biblical prophecy this is also the case), so looking at the seven member states of the G7, four are republics (and have one leader or horn), and three are constitutional monarchies and have two (an elected prime minister and a sovereign monarch). Remember Japan is one of those with an imperial family. Britain and Canada, you might object, share the same "horn" but in constitutional terms the Canadian head of state associated with the monarchy is our home-grown governor general, not the Queen. So it does add up to ten.
Also, the beast was said to have a deadly head wound that it "miraculously" recovered from. This can best be explained as follows: when the beast emerged from the sea (with the alliance in place with the dragon), the U.S. head was wounded because Trump was the president. He was anti-globalist. Now the U.S. head from the perspective of the beast's many followers is healed up with a globalist administration (fraudulently) empowered.
This is also significant to the timing aspect. It is said that the beast would have authority for 42 months. Clearly that cannot have begun before Trump was first elected. But I mentioned that in this analysis, the beast emerges from the sea during Trump's presidency. When might that have been? Possibly around early to mid 2018, when Chairman Xi consolidated absolute power in China, and when globalists were openly musing about global pandemics and population culling strategies at their annual meetings in Davos and the Bilderberg. I would say that January 2019 is about the last date I would assign, therefore we are somewhere in the last third of the 42 months now.
So therefore, is the vaccination business the literal fulfilment of the prophecy, and are we therefore commanded to remain unvaccinated? What about good and faithful people who either never thought about this and got vaccinated, or thought about it and decided it was better to take the chance? I have no insight into answers to these difficult questions, but would hope that faith will prove both an antidote to the harms that might lie ahead, or the judgement that might be possible.
It does pose more of a dilemma to a person like myself who is not by nature an anti-vaxxer in general, but on this one particular issue very hesitant and reluctant even before I factor in the issues related to eternal life.
It is stated in the same prophecy that Christ (or a Christ-like figure) returns with the onset of judgements against the beast, those who took the mark of the beast, and various other types of judgements of the end times.
Can we expect something like this at the end of the 42 months? Is that soon, or further away? Will not taking a vaccine expose us to harm, either from disease, or from a vengeful mob losing patience with us and being urged on by governments and the mass media to take out their frustrations on us? I heard on the local news that a survey shows (in my jurisdiction) 77% have "compassion fatigue" for the unvaccinated. I don't recall asking for compassion, I think they mean they don't care if we live or die and wouldn't go out of their way to offer medical care to the unvaccinated. The survey also claims that this number rises to 83% of the fully vaccinated (obviously the unvaccinated are largely compassionate towards their fellow unvaccinated). This is against a claim of 78% full vaccination (but in rural areas of my province the numbers are closer to 50-50).
My inclination was to remain unvaccinated just on the facts alone but with the added proviso that I would now be knowingly taking on the mark of the beast for my own convenience, it changes the dynamics of the decision for me. How about you (if unvaccinated, or faithful and vaccinated?) ... how do you see this? Will there be greater persecution and social ostracism coming our way? Will it get to the point of interfering in our ability to lead any sort of normal existence?
I think my decision is to withdraw from the society, which may include by necessity reducing ties with family and associates, and wait it out, until either the Biblical prophecy is fulfilled or at least the mass social delusion aspects fade away and the thing becomes a footnote of history perhaps.
This is perhaps easier for me, I am retired and not that involved in many social activities but I can see trouble looming on the family front if I make a very definite point of this (and as you can guess, I would, especially if pushed).
In the specific context of this interpretation, the 42 months began whenever the beast (globalist leaders broadly) made their deal with the dragon (China) and that would probably reduce to when they worked out how the COVID19 episode would begin and what would happen afterwards. This was most likely some time between March 2018 and January 2019 but could have been later. It had to be before Nov 2020 (the beast emerged with the head wound). If we’re saying March 2018 then we are very close to the end of the 42 months. But I don’t know when the deal was made.
jonno wrote:
“IMHO, accepting the “mark” will contain a “moral” component (”by accepting this mark I hereby renounce xyz”).”
The moral component of the shots is that they were researched and developed with aborted baby parts.
I thought about these jabs being the mark of the beast yesterday for some reason. It was just a thought. The beast is here and definitely in control.
There is something definitely weird about the jabs for which most doctors and nurses have had 2. Maybe it’s graphite oxide. Maybe some people got the jab and some got the jab with something else in it, but ever since my second jab, the dials in the dashboard of my jeep jump around like crazy at times. Thought it was an electrical short or something and took it in to have it fixed. Twice now. They keep telling me there is nothing electronically wrong with the Jeep.
Born to Conserve wrote:
“The mark of the beast, 666, is just referring to the use of Roman currency. DCLXVI = 500+100+50+10+5+1 = 666, but that got lost in the translation.”
I thought Nero’s name worked out to “666”; he was in power when Revelation was transcibed by apostle John.
According to the Scripture, the beast comes after many things that haven’t happened yet, including the Two Witnesses. I’m not getting these jabs either, but these jabs are not the mark.
My thought: Xi.
If you have a good faith belief that the use of aborted baby tissue in reasearch, development or testing of the so called vaccines is immoral and that by taking the vaccine, you would be participating in the equivalent of child sacrifice to save yourself, then, while it isn’t the mark of the beast, it’s a perfect example of whether you would be winning to take the mark, if given the choice.
If you can’t buy or sell without the Jab, then whether you take it or not will be a true test of your faith.
Bkmk
No.
The mark will be on your body and visible
If The Beast was revealed how would the likes of you and me know?
Would The Beast be seen on CNN? Would people be able to tweet about The Beast, would Facebook allow any mention of the truth?
Let me repeat that would the media tell us the truth?
Would "our" government tell us the truth?
Would Fact Check or Snopes verify it?
Would any attempt at a Wikipedia page stand for more than moments?
Would The Beast appear on Oprah?
OK, that last is a bad example, but, I think you get the idea.
The Beast could have been revealed in allah his glory to our "betters", but not to the little peons.
That comes at a later unveiling (an Apocalypse, from Greek apokalyptein "uncover, disclose, reveal,")
You can’t leave out his side kick the false prophet in all of this.
No shortage of candidates there.
Only if the “vaccine” and the passports thereof were around in Jesus’ day. Because the Mark was too.
Anyone think the takers of the “vaccine” have doomed themselves to being hit with the Seven Last Plagues?
What I am certain is that there is an army of demonically driven devilish minions running the project.
The passport is racist! If requiring an ID to vote is racist, requiring a vax passport must be racist.
Consider that least some of the vaccinees are magnetic and probably somewhat subject to microwave manipulation. if it works as it is supposed to then the required boosters and more boosters will all have the nano graphene magnetizers in them.
Mmm, not Biblical IMHO.
No.
If you are amillennial, then no, because it is all allegorical.
If you are post millennial, then no, because none of the signs or beasts are revealed yet.
If you are post Trib, then no, because see above.
If you are mid Trib, then no, same.
If you are Pre-Trib, then NO, because we are all still here.
So, no, no, no, no, no, and no are the answers.
It is, as some have said, setting the stage, and the precedent frighteningly so.
Before commenting, I looked and this wasn’t placed in the religious forum.
Had this been in the religious forum, there are some things that can be said about the mark of the Beast and it’s similarity to where Israel was to spiritually place the 10 Commandments.
Those 10 Commandments were to be placed on Israelites hand and forehead.
Not literally.
But spiritually.
A sign of obedience vs a mark of disobedience
Again, wish it was in the religious forum.
There is a Beast around today.
But it’s not nice to say outside religious forum.
If people are waiting for a physical mark.
They may miss the spiritual mark..
People can buy what Satan sells without going to markets.
People can buy gold refined by fire by the Savior without getting real gold
My problem with all analysis that takes the form of “no this is not the time because x has not happened yet” is that maybe x is happening and in any case, when x does happen, will there be some official verification site, like will God have a facebook page where He reveals that yes, x just happened, and if not, then who does get to make the call?
It must have seemed to some in the second world war that all signs were being manifested. I guess that’s an argument in the opposite direction.
I am just not sure how we “know” when the beast is manifested, when the tribulation is underway (if not already), or is it based on a groundswell of belief that I would agree has not taken place yet in this instance. I was wondering if any others were in my sort of ball park on the timing and development of this, and the other unrelated question is, does it matter how many perceive it in advance? Eventually we are assured that Christ appears and presumably then all things become explained, although perhaps an explanation won’t really be that necessary.
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