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Champlain Towers Collapse, Surfside Florida – Unknown Number of Fatalities, 99 People Missing
The Conservative Treehouse | June 24, 2021 | Sundance

Posted on 06/24/2021 10:08:36 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

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To: Does so

They were AirBNB’d out to Argentinians for vaccine tourism use.


41 posted on 06/25/2021 5:42:50 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Texas Fossil
This one looked like something you’d see in a planned demolition.

It did seem to pancake in an oddly perfect way. I'm waiting for them to tell us it was caused by a spark in the center fuel tank.

42 posted on 06/25/2021 5:43:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: Jane Long

There are two more EXACTLY identical buildings just to the north of the collapsed one, which share the same name. They should be inspected IMMEDIATELY. If I lived in one of them, I’d be doing that yesterday and moving out quicklike, if I saw and cracks or repaired cracks and is start by looking at every support column beginning in the lower parking garage.


43 posted on 06/25/2021 5:44:37 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Why is FEMA there? Isn’t this mainly a local issue?


44 posted on 06/25/2021 5:45:18 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: SheepWhisperer

I might even pay an engineer to come look at my own expense.

Certainly these other two buildings will shed light on the collapsed one.


45 posted on 06/25/2021 5:46:18 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: Bonemaker; Jane Long

It’s representative of the seacoast of downtown Miami in Miami-Dade County—just that Miami is newer and taller. Miami Beach and nextdoor Surfside is generally much older.

It’s not so cramped going north one County in Broward County, but they vote as a Commie “bloc”.


46 posted on 06/25/2021 5:53:23 AM PDT by Does so (The Media is the enemy of the people...Trial lawyers close behind...)
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To: Texas Fossil
"This one looked like something you’d see in a planned demolition."

Or it looked like Oklahoma bombing, or 9/11 WTC (and some said it looked like building 7 WTC collapse).

Also recall, WTC first attack was bombs set off in the parking garage.

In general the MSM seems to be in some sort of cover up mode?

🤔

Continued prayers for the victims and their families.

What a horrible tragedy.

47 posted on 06/25/2021 5:56:55 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. MI will never be a peaceful slave Socialist America.)
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To: Hatteras

https://nypost.com/2021/06/24/shocking-video-shows-moment-miami-condo-collapses/
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I wondered that as well and hopefully it will get reposted with a few more seconds upfront.

Regardless, here is what this remarkable bit of video does reveal... the center section collapsed straight down first with perhaps the north side following slightly after the south side dropped. It wasn’t until the entire center section was down, the building section that was closer to the water came straight down and it also perhaps had the south side dropping a slight bit before the north side. The only part left standing is the section closest to the street. The fact that these two sections came down separately makes me think that they weren’t actually joined ‘structurally’ other than the cosmetic stuff that allowed a person to go from one section to the other. My guess is that they were built at different times (or at least in different phases) but that’s just a guess…..

I might be missing something but I don’t see this as anything other than a foundation failure and that could be one or a combination of all the things that have been mentioned... lack of deep pilings, poor quality concrete (perhaps initially poor or degraded by salt over the years), insufficient foundation for the mass of the building, sink hole, other types of voids below the foundation likely relating to some type of water drainage etc. There were reports of complaints of vibration in this whole area (due to construction of another building some distance away) that go back a year….that shouldn’t bring a building down but it might have acted as a catalyst and contributing factor that accelerated some other deficiency that already existed. The fact that both sections basically came straight down (with perhaps the south side leading slightly for both of them) says that whatever brought it down (or combination of factors) was a common issue across the entire foundation footprint….and that would give me serious pause for any nearby structures. Something always go first and in this case, it seemed like what went first was on the south side and that shifted the dynamics and loading of the remaining structure so that the rest almost instantly followed. However, for a common issue there might have been a different part of the structure that went first on a different day or even on the building beside it.

I know one thing... there isn’t anything valuable enough to entice me to go back into the remaining section even for 1 minute.


48 posted on 06/25/2021 5:58:10 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: Pajamajan
or 9/11 WTC

The WTC was largely a steel frame structure.

The WTC Bombing #1 was with charges placed near the elevator in basement. It almost worked from some reports, but failed to bring the building down.’

I doubt this was a bombing, but I guess it is possible.

I think the answer will be found in the fractured concrete left in the debris.

49 posted on 06/25/2021 6:23:21 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Theoria

FEMA has resources that are readily available that may help.

I am not surprised they are there.


50 posted on 06/25/2021 6:24:24 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: SheepWhisperer
I might even pay an engineer to come look at my own expense.

If you are paying millions for a condo, maybe so. People buying the cookie cutter condos for ~$700K not so much.

51 posted on 06/25/2021 6:27:45 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: ClearCase_guy
caused by a spark in the center fuel tank

I get your analogy. I agree that at least the Fed Gov and some State level POLs lie to us 24/7 supporting a foreign agenda.

At this point, I don't believe this was a bombing. but the total leveling of the entire wing of the building is suspect.

It is like what is left when you burn off a field of wheat stubble after harvest. Was it accidental or a planned burn? The degree of un-burned ground is the best indicator.

52 posted on 06/25/2021 6:30:32 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: SheepWhisperer

So scary. I imagine everyone in those identical buildings are scrambling to get out, quick.


53 posted on 06/25/2021 6:30:45 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: EVO X

159 now reported “unaccounted” for. Included in missing sister of president of Paraguay, group from Israel.


54 posted on 06/25/2021 6:32:14 AM PDT by mware (RETIRED)
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To: Texas Fossil
This is likely far worse than has been admitted in the press. The actual video at the link is sickening, almost unimaginable. Prayers for the victims and families.

It's understandable that the public face is one of hope. BUT, this was a horrific event.

55 posted on 06/25/2021 6:34:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: mware

Correction sister of wife of President of Paraguay.


56 posted on 06/25/2021 6:34:26 AM PDT by mware (RETIRED)
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To: Texas Fossil

Cause we all KNOW it *COULDN’T* be terrorism, right????


57 posted on 06/25/2021 6:34:56 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: Does so
Units sold in previous years were advertised for $650,000

Yep, that's what ocean view condos are, or higher.

58 posted on 06/25/2021 6:35:10 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: Deplorable American1776

Thank you on the update of statistics.

Makes me feel very sick thinking about it.

But I am also struggling with things closer to home that deeply trouble me. Last week I learned the my only grandson (14) was given the first dose of Phize Covid shot. My only daughter has had both of them. I was unaware until it was done.

Not good feeling.


59 posted on 06/25/2021 6:35:46 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Jane Long

It is...Moscow. Shows the similarity of the high rises there with here.


60 posted on 06/25/2021 6:36:02 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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