Which Vaccine to Get

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[CondoleezzaProtege]

1) Pfizer 2) Moderna 3) Johnson & Johnson

(Asking on behalf of relative who is young adult with no pre-existing conditions...however has had tough bouts with regular flu in the past and will likely be put in larger group settings in near future etc..)

[dadfly]

wow. what a crazy article. thanks for the link.

ok, since you ask. here goes. big topic.

0. first of all, no cell lines are “created” by companies. i don’t know the history i admit, but that’s just not a fact. God created the cell (animal or human). we have just used them (morally or not based on history) for good or ill, research or medical development.

1. so, the bottom line for the Catholic Bishops (who with the pope are morally compromised already on many fronts imo) is then, you can take a vaccine no matter what if that’s all that’s available. don’t go for that at all. that sounds like the good end justifies any means to me.

2. they claim pfizer and moderna used aborted fetal cell lines in testing. i hadn’t heard that. if true, that’s a grey area for me. for this disease, doesn’t make any sense to me. no need to do that. as i said, moral, consent based, cell lines are available, along with regular adult donated cell lines, cancer cell lines, etc. why not use those? i would if i were testing in vitro. don’t know how the Bishops know this. anyway, if pfizer and moderna are following the rules. i’m inclined to say ok, because one, these are just descendant cells at this point. the spirit has long since departed and the companies weren’t complicit in getting the babies aborted for these cells. if they were complicit, then i would have a problem. the babies didn’t volunteer to be aborted, so those cells should not be used, imo. period. especially there is no need to use them scientifically since other lines are available.

3. they say, J and J grew the vaccine with aborted cell lines. again that’s a grey area for me. don’t like to support any product of abortion. so i think i’d pass on that, but you know, i take all the vaccines so i’m sure some are grown that way. so i guess i’m a hypocrite if i say no to those too.

so, even given the bishops, i still like moderna and pfizer the best from a moral stand point. even if, as the bishops claim, they were only tested with aborted cell lines (which i doubt), that’s not what i’ve heard from my sources.

[Diogenesis]

your false claim that mRNA will not polyadenylate
and enter/change DNA is not accurate,
but is used by those FORCE their DNA operating
systems on the innocent.

[Oshkalaboomboom]

If you’re in a rush to get vaccinated consider this that I copied from another forum:

According to the government...

If I get vaccinated:

1.- Can I stop wearing the mask?

Government Response - No

2.- Can they reopen restaurants, pubs, bars etc and everyone work normally?

Government Response - No

3.- Will I be resistant to covid?

Government Response - Maybe, but we don’t know exactly, it probably won’t stop you getting it

4.- At least I won’t be contagious to others anymore?

Government Response - No you can still pass it on, possibly, nobody knows.

5.- If we vaccinate all children, will school resume normally?

Government Response - No

6.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?

Government Response - No

7.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands?

Government Response - No

8.- If I vaccinate myself and my grandfather, can we hug each other?

Government Response - No

9.- Will cinemas, theatres and stadiums be reopened thanks to vaccines?

Government Response - No

10.- Will the vaccinated be able to gather?

Government Response - No

11.- What is the real benefit of vaccination?

Government Response - The virus won’t kill you.

12.- Are you sure it won’t kill me?

Government Response - No

13.- If statistically the virus won’t kill me anyway ... Why would I get vaccinated?”

Government Response - To protect others.

14.- So if I get vaccinated, the others are 100% sure I’m not infecting them?

Government Response - No

So to summarize, the Covid19 vaccine...

Does not give immunity.

Does not eliminate the virus.

Does not prevent death.

Does not guarantee you won’t get it.

Does not prevent you from getting it.

Does not stop you passing it on

Does not eliminate the need for travel bans.

Does not eliminate the need for business closures.

Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns.

Does not eliminate the need for masking.

So...what is it actually doing?

[Paul R.]

Right. The question actually is: Which instructions do you want your cells ribosomes to follow? Pfizer or Moderna’s instructions (with no complete virus behind them), or Chinese instructions with the full fledged virus sending them in.

[jonrick46]

I think you asked the question perfectly, in a nutshell.

[BTerclinger]

” Lost all sense of smell and taste along with the other symptoms of Covid except no fever. “

I’d bet money you had it. Go get tested and see if you have antibodies. Depending where you live / Biden’s pace of fascism, you may need to prove that to avoid a vaccine for work or travel.

[BTerclinger]

excellent

(We’re in no rush to vaccinate).

[Doofer]

I’d bet money you had it. Go get tested and see if you have antibodies.

I live in the Philippines with my wife and I'm pretty sure they won't give me the test because if I asked for one they wouldn't have a clue.

[BTerclinger]

PHILIPPINES
Dr. Allan A. Landrito (IVM) 09323137060 dr.allan.landrito@gmail.com

from https://www.exstnc.com/

I bet he’d have a clue

[JonPreston]

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[joma89]

None of the above.

[Old Yeller]

I now know about 25 people of ages from early 20s to mid-60s who have had the first vaccines that were available. None of them have had any adverse side-effects, all are fine.

Although they now contain time bombs.

[Steve Van Doorn]

What I’m amazed about is the number of FREEPERS that buy in to this scam.

[Steve Van Doorn]

This is true with most messenger RNA in the immune process not with the pfizer BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine. The Pfizer vaccine acts as an inhibitor. They don't use a viral antigen
Neuropilin-1 is a host factor for SARS-CoV-2 infection
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33082294/

[Steve Van Doorn]

"My doctor is recommending to get a pneumonia vaccine and wait on COVID vaccine until we have reliable data."

You should kiss your doctor! Honestly that is a great doctor you have

[Bulwyf]

You’re actually quite wrong, if you would like to know why, mail me and I’ll see about finding some peer review info for you.

[MarMema]

Wrong.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine.html

“After the vaccine is injected into a person’s arm, the adenoviruses bump into cells and latch onto proteins on their surface. The cell engulfs the virus in a bubble and pulls it inside. Once inside, the adenovirus escapes from the bubble and travels to the nucleus, the chamber where the cell’s DNA is stored.

“The adenovirus pushes its DNA into the nucleus. The adenovirus is engineered so it can’t make copies of itself, but the gene for the coronavirus spike protein can be read by the cell and copied into a molecule called messenger RNA, or mRNA.

Building Spike Proteins
The mRNA leaves the nucleus, and the cell’s molecules read its sequence and begin assembling spike proteins.”

[jpsb]

1 and 2 are mRNA so definitely not those two.
3 maybe since it is more like a traditional vaccine.

[ImaGraftedBranch]

“Quercetin, Vitamin K2, C, D3, and Zinc. “

Same here. My oldest son’s wife got pregnant, and her doc told her she had to stop the quercetin. She got covid the next week, but stayed on 10k iu D3 to lessen the effects.
My son tried everything he could to contract covid from her at that time (use your imagination) but couldn’t catch it.

The power of quercetin and zinc.

No vaccines for me and mine; we are stocked up on what we need.

[HotHunt]

What vaccine?

I ain't gettin' no government vaccine.

As in most things new that are rushed to market, the wrinkles are not all ironed out yet.

Side effects from new vaccines can take a while to manifest themselves. Reported multiple deaths in Israel. Long-term blood problems in others. Too new to trust yet.

And all this to fix something that ain't broke. The covid itself is relative mild with a 99.8% survivability rate even for those who contract it.

I'll take by chances without throwing a wrench in the works.