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Poll: What’s more important, the property of a business owner, or the life of someone who tries to burn down that business?
wordpress ^ | August 30, 2020 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 08/30/2020 1:14:19 PM PDT by grundle

Poll: What’s more important?

* The property of a business owner

* The life of someone who tries to burn down that business


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To: grundle

I side with the business owner. The arsonist is affecting the lives of more than just the owner.


21 posted on 08/30/2020 1:27:14 PM PDT by 41Thunder (It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.)
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To: MtnClimber

110 votes, 97% against arson


22 posted on 08/30/2020 1:27:20 PM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: loucon
The crime of arson does not demand ones life as punishment.

If it was YOUR house you wouldn't think that
23 posted on 08/30/2020 1:27:32 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: grundle

Plank #1 of the Communist Manifesto: Abolition of private property rights.

http://laissez-fairerepublic.com/TenPlanks.html


24 posted on 08/30/2020 1:28:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals. -E Snowden)
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To: grundle

The life is more important in side by side comparison.

But it is the person’s to forfeit if he desire to destroy, and forfeit it he does when he acts to destroy.


25 posted on 08/30/2020 1:30:31 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: grundle
Arson of a person's business cancels the history of his entire lineage.

As I posted in another thread:


Western European surnames are often based on occupations: Baker, Butcher, Butler, Carpenter, Cook, Cooper, Fisher, Gardner, Hunter, Mason, Miller, Potter, Smith, Tailor, Wheeler, Wood...

Families passed down their customs to the next generation. Towns only had enough population to support a few hunters/fishers and a butcher, a few farmers/gardeners and a cook, a carpenter and a mason, a cooper and a smith, a miller and a baker...


Their occupations became their identities and their role in society.

If somebody burned down someone's bakery and they were the only baker in town, their life as "the baker" is gone. Hosting the town's casual meeting place at "the bakery" is gone. Their legacy of passing down the role of "baker" to their children is gone.

People's life work, no, their ancestors' legacy work, is gone when a stranger deems that it's only "property" so it's okay to burn it down for a cause having no relation to the owner.

-PJ

26 posted on 08/30/2020 1:30:49 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Alternatively, you can stand your ground on the property and thereby defend it with lethal force since your life is now at risk.


27 posted on 08/30/2020 1:32:16 PM PDT by loucon (Quarintine by choice is freedom. Quarintine by mandate is ... well you know ... that thing ...)
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To: grundle

If you attack property you forfeit your right to life.


28 posted on 08/30/2020 1:34:29 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: Kozak

In Texas, the use of deadly force to prevent arson is expressly justified by statute, Tex. Penal Code s. 9.42(1)(A).


29 posted on 08/30/2020 1:35:40 PM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: loucon

“Not a valid set of choices. The crime of arson does not demand ones life as punishment.”

Nonsense, in all the states I know of it is permissible to use lethal force to stop arson.


30 posted on 08/30/2020 1:36:54 PM PDT by Bayan
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To: grundle

Property is life.


31 posted on 08/30/2020 1:37:11 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under sixty.)
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To: grundle

The property of a business owner.......98.13% (157 votes)

The life of someone who tries to burn down that business...... 1.87% (3 votes)

Total Votes: 160

Methinks the poll is not going as they expected.

I about spit my dinner all over my computer screen. I expected the property to come out ahead, but not by that much.


32 posted on 08/30/2020 1:37:35 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.)
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To: grundle

Someone doing major damage to property needs to be stopped and receive immediate punishment.

Unfortunately a gun is the only weapon that guarantees these results, but it’s also unfortunate that it’s so deadly.

A property crime doesn’t get the death penalty in a court of law.

Being a thug is risky business. If he gets a hole blown through him, it is what it is, as Trump recently said.


33 posted on 08/30/2020 1:38:16 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: grundle

Is this a trick question?


34 posted on 08/30/2020 1:41:05 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: grundle
It is the arsonist choice:

When he attempts to commit arson, he is showing that he values his own life less than the owner's property.

35 posted on 08/30/2020 1:41:48 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Women's intuition" gave us the Salem witch trials and Kavanaugh hearings. Change my mind.)
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To: grundle

197 property
3 the perp


36 posted on 08/30/2020 1:42:33 PM PDT by citizen (Women are from Venus and Men are from Mars. A,ll the other genders you make up are from Uranus.)
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To: grundle

I see no difference.

The business owner often has decades of hard work and hard times invested in their life’s dream.

Besides, arson is contagious. That makes it worse.

Shoot to kill. Use a 12 gauge with 00 buckshot.


37 posted on 08/30/2020 1:44:15 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Bayan

Only under a certain set of circumstances. As I said previously, you can choose to defend your property with your life. Once you make that choice, you can defend your life with lethal force.


38 posted on 08/30/2020 1:45:03 PM PDT by loucon (Quarintine by choice is freedom. Quarintine by mandate is ... well you know ... that thing ...)
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To: C210N
"Arson, even of property, is attempting homicide. Potentially murder."

I've been saying the same thing, that people live above and next to those stores. I've also been saying that if the police were able to place snipers, they should shoot to kill anyone running up to store with molotov cocktail in hand. Problem is, the Mayors would never permit it, and the arsonists coming out of nowhere, doing their horrible deed and disappearing back into the crowd.

Until the NG walks down the street in mass, locked and loaded, this isn't going to end. That's what it took to end the days of Los Angeles burning when the police were told to back off by the acting Police Chief. They could have stopped it at the flashpoint at a liquor store. I watched that fiasco from beginning at that intersection to the end.

39 posted on 08/30/2020 1:49:15 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamo nauseated. Also LGBTQxyz nauseated)
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To: grundle

Who wants to know?


40 posted on 08/30/2020 1:51:39 PM PDT by OKSooner (Jacob Blake had it coming.)
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