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However, in conclusion, CA Rules, NY Drools:

"As for his own state’s actions, Cuomo today appears to see little reason for regret or apology.

At one media briefing in April, as New Yorkers died by the hundreds daily, Cuomo made a bold claim.

'Today, we can say that we have lost many of our brothers and sisters, but we haven’t lost anyone because they didn’t get the right and best health care that they could,' he said. “The way I sleep at night is I believe that we didn’t lose anyone that we could have saved, and that is the only solace when I look at these numbers and I look at this pain that has been created that has to be true.'

Cuomo just last week seemed to double down on the sentiment.

'I don’t think New Yorkers feel or Americans feel that government failed them here,' he said in an interview. 'I think they feel good about what government has done. ... Their health care system did respond. This was not Italy, with all due respect. ... There were not people in hallways who didn’t get health care treatment.'

'Government didn’t cause or allow anyone to die.'"

1 posted on 05/18/2020 4:06:55 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Came in from Europe and De Blastio/Cuomo acerbated it.


2 posted on 05/18/2020 4:08:07 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Compare NYC with HK.
HK did it right NYC, as always did it wrong


3 posted on 05/18/2020 4:11:14 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until The PIAPS is legally executed)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"California’s governor and San Francisco’s mayor worked together to act early in confronting the COVID threat."

Didn't the SF mayor encourage people to party up Chinese New Year in China town because Orange Man racist?

4 posted on 05/18/2020 4:13:15 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Sending the infected elderly back into assisted living homes was a particularly brilliant move. Good thing it was a liberal democrat that did it. Anybody else woulda been lynched in the media.


5 posted on 05/18/2020 4:13:17 PM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

In other news the Queen Mother is safe!


6 posted on 05/18/2020 4:15:49 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Cuomo didn’t allow them to die, his crap for care hospital system run by his magnificence and his direct intervention in assisted living KILLED them. He plays proud, but he is a murdering psychopath.

Lots of them in goobermint these days. They need to be hammered into the ground like a tent peg.


8 posted on 05/18/2020 4:16:40 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“best health care?” Hell, he even admitted during his daily briefings that putting people on ventilators was like a death sentence for most. But did he call for a better treatment? No, he called for MORE ventilators.


9 posted on 05/18/2020 4:17:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

There is two major problems in New York State and New York City. The two problems are named New York, Governor, Andrew Cuomo & NTC, Mayor, Bill De blasio!!! Both of these low life Democrat Party, human scum and vermin, Hate America, characters should be sitting in prison, for in reality, sorry to say they both are murderers of NY innocents by the dozens.

And to boot they both are destroying the city of NY, The great White Way, The Broadway Theater Strip, the fine mid town Manhattan restaurants, China town eateries, Little Italy chow places, etc. They have killed the brilliant NYC Subway System...filling it with the “Homeless, sick & criminal souls, so that no decent citizen or tourist, will ride the subway. So...say goodbye to Queens, the Bronx, Staten Island & Brooklyn...too!!!

The good news today is that a major poll is showing Biden/Obama is losing in NY State to POTUS, Donald J. Trump!!! The famous NY Liberals are abandoning NY by the thousands heading to Florida & Texas or they are staying and voting for Trumpie!!! Goodness....California might even do the same act!!! Hope so!!! Go Trumpie!!!


13 posted on 05/18/2020 4:26:03 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forev er!!!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Larry Lucido; PROCON; SaveFerris
London Breed, the mayor of San Francisco

London Breed? Is that the gay porn star name equivalent of "Buck Naked?"

14 posted on 05/18/2020 4:29:34 PM PDT by Gamecock (We love works righteousness because it satisfies our desire to judge others. (R.K).)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
This was not Italy, with all due respect. ..

He is right. Going by the numbers, New York State is worse than Italy. Much much worse.

Deaths per million of the population
New York State 1464
Italy 529

15 posted on 05/18/2020 4:36:32 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Did Newsome force nursing homes to take active COVID patients?


16 posted on 05/18/2020 4:39:17 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

17 posted on 05/18/2020 4:40:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The delusion is strong in that one.

Like demonic grade.


18 posted on 05/18/2020 4:40:10 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

i think what it proves is that the same disease can have very different health outcomes, depending on what individual doctors and patients do, and what public health policy authorities do (or don’t do) in various jurisdictions.

in short to quote a famous author, “Fear is the mind killer.”

more to the point, fear is a killer. period.

worst case, one size fits all, gov’t run edicts and “solutions”, can often end up killing more people than they help. NY and NYC are a prime examples of that, imho.


20 posted on 05/18/2020 4:45:31 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

*Texas gyms will open, starting Friday.


22 posted on 05/18/2020 4:53:55 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

simple answers

Population density New York State - 421/sq mile
Population density California - 251.3/sq mile

Population density of major NY cities
Population density NYC - 27,016/sq mile (pop 8.4 mil)
Population density Buffalo - 6,436/sq mile (pop 0.256 mil)
Population density Rochester - 2,282/sq mile (pop 0.206 mil)
Population density Yonkers - 10,827/sq mile (pop 0.200 mil)
(you can see in those numbers the massive factor alone NYC is)

Population density of major California cities
Population density Los Angeles - 7,544.6/sq mile (pop 4.0 mil)
Population density San Diego - 4,456/sq mile (pop 1.4 mil)
Population density San Jose - 5,823/sq mile (pop 1,033 mil)
Population density San Francisco - 17,246/sq mile (0.900 mil)

The total populations of just the states top cities combined and is not very far apart, but the population density is not close - NY’s population is denser.

NY major city average population density - 11,640.27/sq mile
Cal major city average population density - 8,767/sq mile

New York state has about 67% greater population density than California, and its biggest cities have on average about 33% greater population density. Also nearly half of New York state’s population lives in its most densely populated city, New York City, with about another 4 million in nearby outlying New York state communities.

Meanwhile, California’s population, though lager than New York is less dense and more widely distributed, with a greater rural population - 5.187 million to New York’s 1.366 million. Even if you compare New York suburbs to California suburbs, New York’s are more densely populated and less spread out than California’s.

Population density and big cities instead of suburban and rural populations for a greater % of the population is one big factor in the different Wuhan Virus experience between the two states.


27 posted on 05/18/2020 5:13:05 PM PDT by Wuli (Get)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“As for his own state’s actions, Cuomo today appears to see little reason for regret or apology.”

This dunderhead is too stupid to regret and too arrogant to apologize. Because of his idiotic decisions thousands died needlessly. But do NY voters even comprehend this?


28 posted on 05/18/2020 5:21:08 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
NYC was a nightmare. DiBlasio did not help matters at the beginning when he encouraged New Yorkers to got to Chinatown for Chinese New Year. Manhattan has a population density that is about as high as it gets in the US. Couple that with high usage of crowded subways and you get "the Perfect Storm". Coumo figured it out when he saw cases rising and did what he could. His decision on nursing homes will probably cause him nightmares... What was he to do with high-risk nursing home patients who were infected? I suppose they could have used the hospital ship. It is easy for me to think of this; I was not in the hot seat...

Western NY has a much lower population density and we were just mildly inconvenienced. Don't get me wrong - I am ready for this lock-down to end, but we need to be prudent and open carefully with social distancing to prevent a second wave.

30 posted on 05/18/2020 6:39:55 PM PDT by RetiredScientist
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Is this a back-door trial balloon for Breed as VP? Of course she has no foreign policy experience, but neither does self-promoting Stacey Abrams, so I guess stranger things have happened.


32 posted on 05/18/2020 6:52:34 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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