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Why the Tax bill will destroy Blue State Republicans AND the national Democrat Party
vanity | November 27, 2017 | Kevin J. Collins

Posted on 11/27/2017 7:32:43 AM PST by jmaroneps37

The list of Republicans who voted NO on the Tax bill makes a very clear statement about the future of their party in the Blue States. They are a dozen or so poor souls clinging to the old politics way of doing things. Knowing he had the votes to pass a tax bill that would destroy the states these people come from, Speaker Paul Ryan gave them permission to vote NO.

In old pre-Trump politics this would shield them from effective attacks and save their jobs; but those days are over.

The bill contains the greatest attack by a majority party on the minority party in at least 80 years. It will end the SALT “State and Local Tax” deduction from federal income tax returns.

This will mean those who live in what the media and Democrats derisively call “Flyover Country” will no longer be forced to subsidize the Democrats purchase of votes using their tax money.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has called the SALT elimination a “DISASTER” for his state. Do we need more to convince us SALT is a great start for dismantling the Democrats shake down system of squeezing all Americans to pay for their vote buying schemes?

As time goes by – and make no mistake it won’t be a long time – middle class MAKERS will abandon the 10 or so states owned and controlled by Democrats because the “make up taxes” (see things like soda tax) will be just too much to carry.

When this happens more TAKERS will arrive as they will be squeezed out of the other 40 states by things like workfare, food stamp cuts and threats of deportation.

The unavoidable result of these factors will be that Democrats will be sealed into 10 states that look like Hawaii. They will no longer be able to offer a threat to Republican power on the national stage.

In 2018 the Democrats will take back most if not all of the few Republican seats in these states and “seem” to be gaining strength; but it will be an illusion. The 2020 census redistricting will draw away congressional districts lost by the hollowing out Blue States and give them to Red States. Lost seats will be made up enough to maintain a working majority for the Republicans.

Enforcement of voter identification laws will lead to discouraged and financially destroyed Democrats quitting politics.

Deportation and voter ID enforcement will make Blacks the Democrats’ only reliable minority group.

This will result in Democrats being forced to support things like Reparations and a separate Black nation to bow to the radical leftists in the Black Congressional Caucus. It will be calamitous for the Democrats.

As taxes rise in Blue States to provide Democrats with the money to buy votes, industries like Wall Street and Department store shopping that do not need a brick and mortar location will find it much cheaper to move to a Red State.

When they awake to these factors Senate Republicans will pass the tax bill. They will come to realize that their hatred of Donald Trump pales before the opportunity for lifetime job security his tax plan presents to them.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: taxreform
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To: MSF BU
Massachusetts. The only state that would not vote for a tax cut for themselves.

Still shaking my head over that one.

41 posted on 11/27/2017 8:28:48 AM PST by onona
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To: deadrock

“Do you think it is fair for Alberta/Ontario or do you have a home on the St. Lawrence? “

If you were actually paying attention you would realize your analogy supports the idea that it’s the big blue states that are wrongly supporting the red states.

CA, NY, NJ and IL are the Alberta/Ontario in your story. They send more money to DC than they get back. That extra money is transferred to the red states that are not paying their own way.


42 posted on 11/27/2017 8:31:21 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Starboard
"I think there’s a chance the bruised congress could pass some watered down form of tax legislation just to distract from their own problems."

Possibly. They are self-serving little $hits, after all. But I do firmly believe that they see the anti-estrblishment, anti-globalist, pro-America movement within the conservative ranks as a threat to their "one world" agenda (reference McCain and Flake's recent speeches). So maybe they are conflicted, but I'd bet anything that they'll protect their ideology before their jobs.
43 posted on 11/27/2017 8:31:44 AM PST by LIConFem
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To: jmaroneps37

As a blue state Republican I can bite the bullet if it does indeed destroy the national Democrat Party!

Promises, promises...


44 posted on 11/27/2017 8:33:40 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: LIConFem
They are self-serving little $hits, after all.

Was it Mark Twain who said that politicians, like diapers, should be changed frequently, for the same reason? TERM LIMITS, NOW and FOREVER!

45 posted on 11/27/2017 8:39:45 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: jmaroneps37
For every Republican in a deep blue state, that is going to see their taxes go up, and blame the federal government, for the high taxes their state levies, there will be hundreds, if not thousands, of dissociated Democrats in rust belt, formerly 'blue wall' states of PA, MI, WI, MN, who will see their taxes go down.

The national policies of the Democrat party, increasingly benefit only urban districts. Democrats, and their socialistic group mentality, will continue to lead, towards them winning urban environments by 40% margins, but the cost of that is that they will lose more, and more districts, by 5%-10%.

In my opinion, the reason Tax Reform is so necessary, is that it is the means to show life-long, moderate, Democrats, that they are no longer Democrats. And, combining that, with the Democrat party leaders hard shift to the Progressive, far-left, and the 'Blue Wall', will rapidly turn pink, and leave the Democrats as a minority party, for at least the foreseeable future.
46 posted on 11/27/2017 8:44:32 AM PST by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Trump wanted a tax cut. An across the board tax cut would have been the right thing to do. No one would be a loser and everyones taxes would be cut. This current monstrosity raises middle class taxes to pay for a permanent corporate tax cut for the gop establishment globalist corporate donors. No wonder the gop is so happy with it.


47 posted on 11/27/2017 8:45:24 AM PST by Okeydoker
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To: JimRed

You’d have to get rid of every swamp-dwelling Republican from both houses before you’d even have a prayer passing term limits. While I agree whole heartedly with your sentiment, I don’t see it happening any time soon.


48 posted on 11/27/2017 8:46:17 AM PST by LIConFem
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To: jmaroneps37

No reason the federal government should finance high tax states


49 posted on 11/27/2017 8:50:49 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: SkyPilot

This tax bill if enacted will raise taxes on trump middle class voters, not democrats! These supporters are too stupid to see it. They will not vote for gop congress in 2018.the house will be lost. Smooth move. Once again the gop establishment has done in their voters to support their globalist donors. No wonder ryan is happy.


50 posted on 11/27/2017 8:51:36 AM PST by Okeydoker
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To: Navy Patriot

Nope. Raise taxes and lose the House. Mark my words.


51 posted on 11/27/2017 8:52:40 AM PST by Okeydoker
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To: SkyPilot

Their lives will not be destroyed

They will move or get more politically involved. High tax states spend ridiculous amounts of money because they can. Now their electorates won’t be so quick to say yes


52 posted on 11/27/2017 8:52:48 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: deadrock

They want a slow nonbullet train to nowhere


53 posted on 11/27/2017 8:54:11 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: 9YearLurker

Washington state is a no tax state

Texas is a low tax state

Your understanding of low and no tax states is limited.... like that of most elites


54 posted on 11/27/2017 8:55:59 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

McLintock votes yes and retires. Profile in Courage. Next one last run for Gov. to lower taxes. Lose and become ambassador to Ireland.


55 posted on 11/27/2017 8:57:16 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Nifster

You are delusional if you think democrat run high tax states are going to reduce taxes to help,their trump voting republican citizens. You have fallen for the fake argument made by the gop establishment globalists in their scam to pass a corporate tax giveaway.


56 posted on 11/27/2017 8:57:18 AM PST by Okeydoker
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To: Nifster; SkyPilot

That’s why we need to keep the Estate Tax. No reason people who don’t get an inheritance should subsidize those who do. Right?


57 posted on 11/27/2017 8:57:57 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: deadrock
Which Freeper here thinks this is fair to the financial responsible provinces of Alberta and Ontario? Which Freeper here says Quebec should get more just because they have a vacation home on the St. Lawrence?

Reading through this thread, it appears there are plenty of FReeers who think just that.

58 posted on 11/27/2017 9:00:50 AM PST by Chuckster ("Them Rag Heads just ain't rational" Curly Bartley 1973)
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To: SkyPilot

Thank you. Why are conservatives in blue states being punished? Isn’t conservatism also about the individual and not about what is good for the patty?


59 posted on 11/27/2017 9:03:42 AM PST by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: Okeydoker
Raise taxes and lose the House. Mark my words.

Subsidize Progressives and get more of 'em. Mark my words.

60 posted on 11/27/2017 9:04:28 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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