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Ma: We need to stop training kids for manufacturing jobs
KSAT-TV ^ | September 20, 2017 | Julia Horowitz, CNN Money

Posted on 09/20/2017 3:16:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Jack Ma knows artificial intelligence will change the world.

The Alibaba founder and chairman doesn't think we should be scared. But he does think we should be prepared for major disruptions to the job market.

"In the last 200 years, manufacturing (has brought) jobs. But today -- because of the artificial intelligence, because of the robots -- manufacturing is no longer the main engine of creating jobs," Ma said Wednesday in a speech at the Bloomberg Global Business Forum in New York City.

Moving forward, Ma said he believes the service industry will be the largest engine of job creation.

Ma's stance is starkly different from the economic vision espoused President Donald Trump, who campaigned on an "America First" populist agenda and has repeatedly made promises to restore U.S. manufacturing jobs.....

(Excerpt) Read more at ksat.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: automation; education; jobs; robots
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I know his won't be a popular opinion here.
1 posted on 09/20/2017 3:16:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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healthy manufacturing = healthy middle-class


2 posted on 09/20/2017 3:19:19 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No everything electronic is made by Chinese slave labor. Those are the robots.


3 posted on 09/20/2017 3:19:54 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. .)
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I don’t see any use for manufacturing, except of course in all the countries that now make our stuff.


4 posted on 09/20/2017 3:21:02 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: gaijin

Healthy manufacturing = more secure country.

Do we really want to leverage our ability to produce goods necessary for our national defense to potential enemies?


5 posted on 09/20/2017 3:21:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because only the ChiComs can have any manufacturing operations, right?


6 posted on 09/20/2017 3:21:43 PM PDT by matt04
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I am no luddite, but I have some level of concern about automation. It will decrease the need for human labor.

But not all humans are capable of being systems analysts, AI programmers or network architects.

I think we might want to look into forming self-sustaining communities where people know how to farm, build houses, create and maintain machines. Not so much because they need these skills to survive — automation is likely to create a post-scarcity world where you have “stuff” and way too much time. Back to the land movements can be good because the alternative is to sit and home and watch The View on TV all day long.

Basic skills, it seems to me, are always a good thing to teach.


7 posted on 09/20/2017 3:24:12 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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Are robots going to fix your car or build your house?


8 posted on 09/20/2017 3:26:19 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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When I was a supervisor at the unemployment office you should’ve heard the shouting if I turned off the TV in the lobby.


9 posted on 09/20/2017 3:26:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Because only the ChiComs can have any manufacturing operations, right?

Bingo!
10 posted on 09/20/2017 3:26:40 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Eventually yes, of course they will.


11 posted on 09/20/2017 3:27:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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He’s right. Automation is taking manufacturing jobs away around the world. You can bring back the manufacturing but the jobs will stay gone. If you look at gross output the manufacturing sector in America is quite strong, it’s only when you start looking at the job numbers that things get rough. And that’s not improving.


12 posted on 09/20/2017 3:28:41 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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>>I know his won’t be a popular opinion here.

Because most people don’t read past the headline or understand the purpose of the John Dewey method of education.

School, and undergrad college, teaches people to color inside the lines, to regurgitate facts, and to follow set schedules. It makes productive and compliant little citizens, not innovators. It rewards the loud extroverts and declares the introspective to be broken.

We will never be a manufacturing nation again (until the Progressives/Globalists destroy our way of life and force us to accept Third World wages).


13 posted on 09/20/2017 3:28:41 PM PDT by Bryanw92
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“Moving forward, Ma said he believes the service industry will be the largest engine of job creation.”

We heard that already, right before our middle class got wiped out.


14 posted on 09/20/2017 3:30:34 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder.)
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Until that happens as more than a prototype it’s BS, like the flying car.


15 posted on 09/20/2017 3:31:09 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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Danny Noonan: I've always wanted to go to college.

Judge Smails: Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too.

16 posted on 09/20/2017 3:31:12 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Whig Party died when it fled the great fight of its century. Ditto for the Republicans now.)
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America is vastly overpopulated, especially with imbeciles and illiterate, unskilled “immigrants”, who will be nothing but a drag on our economy and fiscal well-being for a long time. Obama even let in NATIVE Central Americans who don’t even speak Spanish! They came in by the tens of thousands, wrecking schools and social services. We need to end chain migration for ALL immigrants, stop unskilled immigration cold and adopt a New Zealand-like filter. We also need to stop subsidizing childbearing with tax breaks and the unearned “Earned Income Tax Credit” with Additional Credit. Why do we want stupid people reproducing? If they do, cut off welfare at the last child’s level. Automation changes EVERYTHING as far as population growth feeding the pension system. That is all over. Yet idiot libertarians continue to spew that nonsense.


17 posted on 09/20/2017 3:33:24 PM PDT by montag813 (ue)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stupid.


18 posted on 09/20/2017 3:34:08 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Constantly doing things in opposition to human nature is insanity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let the robots try biomanufacturing.

Or prototyping (i.e., making anything new.)

Or customized products.

BIG FAIL!!!!

We cannot become a nation of McDonald’s or Walmart workers in the “service industry”. Or those who treat elders as trash as “assisted living” workers. This is a recipe for a downward standard of living, among other things. PHOOEY!!!!


19 posted on 09/20/2017 3:38:36 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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Actually, robots will take those jobs soon enough.


20 posted on 09/20/2017 3:40:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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