Posted on 08/14/2017 7:25:38 AM PDT by bryan999
Getting sick of liberals telling me that "the right" = Nazis.
I have found that liberals twitch and sputter out of control when they're asked to describe the difference between Nazism and Communism. They can't seem to do it.... and it's usually because they don't have any clue whatsoever.
The answer is that there isn't much of a difference at all. Just different "flavors" really.
But despite all this, libs are quick to associate the so-called "right wing" and conservatives and Trump supporters with Neo-nazis??? How does that work ?
Has anyone seen the various "platforms" of some of these neo-nazi groups ? They read like Democrat platforms!
Ok, that is all... please discuss.....
Actually Stalin was more for “National Socialism”, or as it called it, “Socialism in One Country”. He also rejected the Internationalism of Lenin and Trotsky, in favor of complete “Russification” of the Soviet Union, and a continuation, of the same policies of the Russian Empire with regards to colonization of Finland and Poland.
One of the best ways to shut them up is to show them Heinrich Himmler’s quotes on gun control.
The bottom line is that Nazism and Communism are merely based on the whim of the Strongman leading the country at the time, it’s whatever they say it is, but it’s always about Centralized control.
According to Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn's book "Leftism Revisted", the Nazis and the German Communists originated from the same splinter groups of German Socialists.
He asserts in his book that the Nazi Flag, (Red Background/White Center with a Swastika) Were originally made from Communist "Hammer and Sickle" flags over which a Swastika was placed to cover up the Hammer and Sickle. That is why the Nazi flags were Red. The original Communist flags from which they were made were Red.
Nazism (really Fascism on Streiods) differs only in focus—one stresses nationalism and national tribalism the other international Marxism. The only real difference is Nazism has a larger military budget and better uniforms.
“What is the difference between Nazism and Communism?”
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Any difference betwixt a Lib and a RINO????
That’s just an opening non-question!
It all goes much, much deeper!
Semper TRUMP...If we can keep him!
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In fact, Stalin was relieved that the Nazis gained power over the Communists in Germany, because he felt that a Communist Germany would ultimately have rivaled the Soviet Union for leadership of the Communist movement. His agents basically turned over most of the German Communists over to the Gestapo.
It’s like the difference between a Blood and a Crip.
Basically, National Socialism and Marxism are the same thing. - Adolph Hitler
great flag!
The main difference is that Nazism is NATIONAL socialism, whereas communism is INTERNATIONAL socialism.
Oth are variations of socialism, which Marx called lower communism.
Nazi stands for nationalized socialism.
So when liberals call Naziism right-wing, I’d start there in correcting them. It is something simple that they can understand.
That Fascism is socialism with government control of private industry, while still having private ownership is too much for their little brains to understand.
There are some common things so first look at the general case:
There are evil people out there that desire power most of all in life. They want this power to suppress others while enriching themselves and their friends.
Yet they are outnumbered, so they have to convince others to put them in power, i.e., they need a marketing plan.
Some people accept the marketing plan, others don’t. Of those that believe the marketing, there are useful idiots and true believers.
The useful idiots sit on the sidelines echoing the marketing plan. The true believers sign up to actually assist those desiring power because they truly believe in the cause outlined in the marketing plan. They don’t recognize that the true goal is power.
Now for the specific:
The only root difference between communist and nazi is the marketing plan.
Nazis capitalized on the tribalist and naturalist part of human nature to convince others that there was a master race (of which they were apart), that is superior to all others, has an inherent right to the land and its controlling authority. Inferior races must be cleansed.
Communists capitalize on the envious part of human nature to convince others that there are those manipulating them to keep them down. The state must control the economy and distribute fairly.
Note that both of these capitalize on negative aspects of human nature. They both promise freedom for some, but not for others.
And perhaps most importantly, note that both systems require totalitarian power, so once actually in power, the only way to free yourself is through force. Those pushing the marketing plan conveniently leave out this annoying detail.
Only a system that promises freedom for all, marketing the positive aspects of human nature is just. It’d also have to be a system that limits the actual government so it does not have totalitarian power, nor make it easy to obtain.
The only such system in the history of mankind was the free market capitalist system established by the founders of the United States.
But that’s long gone.
It works because plenty of "conservatives" aren't conservative at all. They actually love big government, as long is it is doing their bidding.
Lots of lefties and lots of righties want an all-powerful, centralized government. They just disagree on who that government should have their thumb on.
That Fascism is socialism with government control of private industry, while still having private ownership is too much for their little brains to understand.
China isn’t pure communism, anymore.
From “The Soviet Story”:
‘The left ultimately opposed nazism because hitler distorted marxism beyond recognition.
Gassing people based on their nationality was inexcusable...The selection should be based on class!
Hitler got it all wrong, absolutely DIFFERENT people should be killed.’
Pretty much sums up the difference...
Communists make no pretense at private ownership of anything, and desire a one world Communist Utopia. This always winds up becoming a dictatorship because whoever is mean enough to deprive others of their property siezes it and keeps it for themselves. End result- totalitarian state. Fascism opposes the global aspect of communism with intense nationalism, makes a pretense at private property but due to a belief that only dictatorship can lead a nation, becomes a totalitarian state. Think of them both as failed attempts to create perfect societies, with the same result but different goals.
The difference, the Commies murdered millions more than the Nazis, but were smart enough to destroy most of the evidence, and hid the bodies that are now being discovered. If given power, they (Communists) would do it again, with no remorse. One party control means no limit to their power. The Nazis copied the camps from Russia. Ever notice there are maps showing the Nazi camps, but very few ever show the Stalin era camps. Judging from the scale of people forced to die in the USSR there isn’t enough room for all the dots. If anyone brings that up, the left immediately accuses you of being a Nazi sympathizer. Russia could never pay reparations for all those who were sent away to disappear, or just murdered on the spot. (They called voiced political dissent treason.) Both systems were based on terror to control the population. If you use terror and forced labor, you are not for freedom. Those who use terror will promise you milk and honey in life, but they only deliver fire and brimstone, and repeat the darkest part of history. Nazis and Communism, same crap in different wrapper but one comes in the larger King size package.
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