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What Might a New Party Formation Look Like?
self | 7/29/2017 | LS

Posted on 07/29/2017 9:08:32 AM PDT by LS

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To: LS
That was certainly some creative thinking there, LS, but the problem is not the Republican name but the formula that today passes itself off as "Republican." Trump with Pence conquered the Republican brand and now you want to change the name? Bad move.

Recall the market disaster that was "New Coke." The brand changed the formula, tried to pass itself off as a new "improved" version of Coke (c. 1985). It flopped. It nearly tanked the company, until they re-introduced the original formula as Coke "Classic."

Bush-RINO's go-along, get-along, "Kinder, Gentler" GOP = "New Coke."

Why can't we have Republican "Classic" -- free of the faggot sympathizers, the "amnestoids," and scared-of-their-shadows squishes that have wormed into the brand over the years and have been in the process of tanking it?

How about we start Scaramucci-ing a few more people? Start with the money. Our party is headed by a billionaire, not a money grubbing criminally compromised extort-able pussy.

Let's put on the business hat that has dealt with the Manhattan mobs for 40 years. What strategy can Trump's people employ to defund the disloyal? At the same time figuratively "string up" the traitors and instilling boot quaking fear into those who might be tempted to screw with Trump's success?

The Republican brand has been acquired by Trump-MAGA, Inc.

Don't surrender the hard won name. Make politicians fear the thought of ever pissing on that name, and hit them in the $ when they get out of line.

FReegards!

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101 posted on 07/29/2017 1:56:47 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: umgud
I’m more inclined to think we’d see a break-off faction from the dem tent.

Currently there are serious efforts to form a Bernie Sanders party, a Trump party, and a Centrist party. There is more money in the Centrist party than the wing parties. The Centrist party would be controlled by pragmatists of no particular ideology. aka opportunists. They would be willing to welcome socially liberal, fiscally conservative types, which would be their base. But they would also pander to every conceivable person unhappy with the two major parties, regardless of ideology. Because they would be willing to accept anyone, they have the potential to grow far more than the wing parties. The wing parties constantly seek purity. Would a wing party accept me, who voted for Trump but disagrees with Trump on immigration and trade? Picture a replay of Truman and Dewey in 1948. The Chicago Tribune was sure that Dewey would win because the Dixiecrats and Strom Thurmond took one wing of the party and Wallace and the socialists took the other wing of the Democrats. The Tribune figured the Democrats were split 3 ways and thus the united Republicans would win. In a 2020 with 4 or 5 parties all bigger than the LP and Green parties of the past presidential years, who would be the Harry Truman who defies conventional wisdom to win? Think about that logically, not emotionally.

102 posted on 07/29/2017 2:10:18 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Da Coyote

49 repubs stayed solid. Can’t dismiss the whole party because of McInsane. He never has sided with GOP that I can recall on any big issue. He is a war monger and nothing more. He was a lousy pilot, crashed 3 or 4 planes, and loves to kiss the media to get his face on TV.

Good news is he has not many days left on this earth.


103 posted on 07/29/2017 2:16:05 PM PDT by entropy12 (Why Republicans woo & pursue people who will never vote for them (liberals & media) ?)
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To: Jim 0216
An "awake" population is at best a small minority. We already have near 50% who derive their living from the government. Those people will vote for more government no matter what as will the portion of the Left that does not get its living directly from the government. Some things that could be done but it would take a dictator to do them is repeal of the 16th,17th, and 19 Amendments, total elimination of federal government involvement in education at all levels, including research grants, total separation ofthe FG from all facets of Medicine and Insurance.

Education is critical. only a tiny minority of people under 60 years old has ever had any exposure in the schools to History and Reasoning and Grammar, all of which are necessary to think critically and to have the resources in your brain to know what to think about. Not knowing history people are open to any insane system that politicians can make to sound good. Not knowing history prevents a sense of time and results. No one can see that harebrained schemes like socialism have always failed in the past. The inevitable failure of individual socialist schemes does not impinge on the mind because there is no connection of cause and effect if they are separated by more than a year or less.

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104 posted on 07/29/2017 2:19:30 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Grampa Dave

McInsane & Linda are simply neocons, and never met a war they did not like.


105 posted on 07/29/2017 2:24:50 PM PDT by entropy12 (Why Republicans woo & pursue people who will never vote for them (liberals & media) ?)
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To: BobL
But until then, all I see is ROCK-SOLID UNITY by the Democrats in power.

There, finished your sentence for you.

BTW, how's Debbie Blabbermouth Schult's power hold doing?

106 posted on 07/29/2017 2:45:06 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (RuPaul and Yertle - our illustrious Republican leaders up the Hill - God help us!)
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To: LS

It would look like Ron Paul and you’re years behind the curve on it.


107 posted on 07/29/2017 2:56:50 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: arthurus

Tell you what. You teach ‘em history and I’ll teach ‘em the Constitution. I’m in the process right now of signing up to do just that at the local junior college.

Gotta start somewhere, but you gotta have faith. You’ll lose out if you don’t have faith that ultimately God will see this thing through.

A small minority was all it took to foment the American Revolution and a small but determined, wise, and knowledgeable minority is all we need. You and God are a majority. It’s already started and the unlikely and somewhat miraculous Trump presidency is evidence that God is working on our behalf - on America’s behalf.


108 posted on 07/29/2017 3:15:55 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: LS



#MAGA - R define, separate and distinguish Republicans.








#MAGA - R!
ONLY THE BEST!

109 posted on 07/29/2017 3:20:52 PM PDT by onyx (Donate Monthly ~ Join 300 Club!)
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To: Jim 0216

Go to http://heavenlysign2017.com
Read the whole thing, and tell we don’t have a two day window.


110 posted on 07/29/2017 3:39:26 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: COBOL2Java

“BTW, how’s Debbie Blabbermouth Schult’s power hold doing?”

Just fine...NOT A SINGLE DEMOCRAT has come out against her...nor will they ever.


111 posted on 07/29/2017 3:54:45 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: BobL
Just fine...NOT A SINGLE DEMOCRAT has come out against her...nor will they ever.

Fear is a mighty motivator.

112 posted on 07/29/2017 3:58:39 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (RuPaul and Yertle - our illustrious Republican leaders up the Hill - God help us!)
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To: SubMareener
Nonsense.

Man's calculations do not trump God's Word. You're probably confusing the second part of Jesus' return with the first part.

No one knows the hour or the day Jesus will come FOR his saints like "a thief in the night" to snatch His Church away to Heaven in a twinkling of an eye - no one sees it (they only see the aftermath).

But when that happens, Daniel's seventieth week begins and we know exactly when He will return WITH his saints seven years later "as lightning that flashes in the east even to the west" - everyone will see it.

Since God's Word says that, in such an hour as you do not expect, the Son of man will come [for his saints] (Matt 24:44), you could make a winning bet that he will NOT show up on your predicted date since presuming to know the day and the hour explicitly goes against God's Word.

113 posted on 07/29/2017 4:09:45 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: SubMareener
Nonsense.

Man's calculations do not trump God's Word. You're probably confusing the second part of Jesus' return with the first part.

No one knows the hour or the day Jesus will come FOR his saints like "a thief in the night" to snatch His Church away to Heaven in a twinkling of an eye - no one sees it (they only see the aftermath).

But when that happens, Daniel's seventieth week begins and we know exactly when He will return WITH his saints seven years later "as lightning that flashes in the east even to the west" - everyone will see it.

Since God's Word says that, in such an hour as you do not expect, the Son of man will come [for his saints] (Matt 24:44), you could make a winning bet that he will NOT show up on your predicted date since presuming to know the day and the hour expressly goes against God's Word.

114 posted on 07/29/2017 4:16:59 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Parley Baer

Badge of Honor.


115 posted on 07/29/2017 4:52:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: Parley Baer

Whoops, meant that as a reply to your post #6.


116 posted on 07/29/2017 4:54:15 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: alloysteel

The Progressives technically split in 1912, but mostly rejoined by 1920. TR was already dead by 1920. La Follette launched his leftist independent (Progressive) Presidential candidacy in 1924 when Conservatives were nominated on both the GOP (Coolidge) and Dem (John W. Davis) tickets. That was also the last year the Dems nominated a Conservative.


117 posted on 07/29/2017 5:05:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: LS

I would join today!!


118 posted on 07/29/2017 5:22:51 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: Jim 0216

People do not “rise up” except under great distress or provocation. Instead, elections and the imperfect mechanisms of representative government provide the remedy, if any remedy is to be had. And, contrary to all reasonable expectations, in our now long history, America and Americans somehow always seem to rally and master the challenges thrown before us. We not only live in a great country, be we live among great people.


119 posted on 07/29/2017 7:42:26 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
America and Americans somehow always seem to rally and master the challenges thrown before us. We not only live in a great country, be we live among great people.

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the American People rising up and taking back their country and their Constitution. It’s already started with Trump and not without God’s help. God will to continue to help and we will win.
120 posted on 07/29/2017 8:15:34 PM PDT by Jim W N
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