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Men not marrying? How deep does "the problem" go?
YouTube ^ | March 15, 2012 | Karen Straughan

Posted on 04/23/2017 3:45:20 PM PDT by grundle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlvMAS_20K4

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: feminism; genderwars; marriage; mgtow
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To: baltimorepoet

The command is to not MURDER.

Soldiers were never held responsible for murder when killing in the line of duty was required. Neither was the executioner for fulfilling the role in capital punishment that the government deemed necessary for whatever crime demanded it.

So your argument fails because it starts with a false premise.


201 posted on 04/23/2017 7:26:51 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: central_va; All

Wait on me hand and foot is used as an idiom here, not a literal slave. Leave it up to a woman to not see that.

The idiom is expressing the desire a man has for a woman who puts him first. Instead of constantly competing with him and tying to be in charge. Simply that.

If the woman wants to be in charge she needs to stay single. Then she can have total control over everything and be totally responsible for everything. Guys do not want to be in constant battle and competition with a mate.


202 posted on 04/23/2017 7:30:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man; metmom

Metmom doesn’t get it. She needs to make each of us a sammich, shrink wrap it and send them to us UPS.


203 posted on 04/23/2017 7:35:01 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Actually think most if not all people here would agree with you 100%.


204 posted on 04/23/2017 7:37:05 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: baltimorepoet

Don’t worry dude. I don’t think anyone will want to marry you nor your boys. And I’m surprised they have jobs to be considered ATM machines.

“Thou Shalt Not Kill” of course is speaking about murder. God commanded to kill when Israel went to war. God knows we are intelligent beings and unless you’re trying to purposefully to misunderstand, He treats us as intelligent and reasonable beings.

That doesn’t matter though of course to you. But again, I don’t think you’ll have to worry about anyone tricking you into marrying them.


205 posted on 04/23/2017 7:39:45 PM PDT by SarahPalin2012
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To: central_va

Would you really eat a sandwich she made for us?


206 posted on 04/23/2017 7:40:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; cherry

Anyone is entitled to look where ever they want for a spouse, but the same question could be posed about women looking for manly foreign men.

And what’s the purpose for finding a foreign women?

Cause you can live how you want and she won’t give you any grief over it and she’ll wait on you hand and foot?

I’m no feminist and believe in traditional roles in marriage, but marriage takes work from BOTH parties. It’s not all about what women can do to make a man’s life more comfortable.

If a woman had that attitude that that’s what men were for, she’d be shredded, just like we’re seeing here on this thread.

The double standard on display here is part of the problem. Of all the comments it took until cherry’s post 166 before anyone even addressed the concept that men could be part of the reason a marriage didn’t last. If you went solely by the posts on this thread, all the men were perfect and didn’t deserve it, and all the women were psychopath gold diggers and Satan incarnate. The men are never to blame and the women always are.

Women have no business attacking a man’s manhood and the portrayal of men and women on TV is reprehensible and contributes to a lot of it.

But it takes work and sacrifice on BOTH parts and judging by the comments on this thread about why men want foreign women, what is clear is that men don’t want to work at a relationship. They just want some woman who will make herself a doormat and wait on him hand and foot so he can live as he pleases and she can’t.

And then men wonder why women leave them and they didn’t see it coming.

I have friends where the wife left him and he said that exact thing. He was blind-sided by it, said he never saw it coming, and honestly, that was a large part of the problem. He never focused outside of himself enough to realize how miserable she was. And she was no feminist either. She had very conservative views and enjoyed being a homemaker and was not the type to cheat on him.

But she finally had enough and left one day and it blew him away. I could see it coming for years. He could have too if he had really paid attention to what was going on.


207 posted on 04/23/2017 7:41:06 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

No, but I want her to make them just the same.


208 posted on 04/23/2017 7:41:43 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: metmom
If a woman had that attitude that that’s what men were for, she’d be shredded, just like we’re seeing here on this thread.

That is where you are so so wrong.

209 posted on 04/23/2017 7:43:26 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; metmom

I got remarried to a woman from the Philippines. She was working abroad and had been for many years. She had almost no money because she was generous to her family and put their needs first. As my wife she is modest, dedicated to our son, a good homemaker and much less argumentative than the typical American woman.

Oh yeah, her prior experience with other men was practically zero. She brought zero baggage from her past. Sadly I am divorced and cannot say the same. A woman who sleeps around is defiled. That’s from the pastor’s sermon today. The red pill guys will point to studies and say it messes up a woman’s ability to pair bond. Yet it doesn’t for men. Maybe because men compartmentalize, for better or for worse.

Anyways I am happy to have a modest woman without any prior baggage. She was in her late 30s when we met. I simply think it would be near impossible to find such a woman here: There are so few of them I suspect that the odds of such a woman liking a grumpy dude like me back are slim, lol.


210 posted on 04/23/2017 7:43:33 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: Windflier

And what is men’s excuse?

For all the whining and b!+ching about how women look as they age, did you’all men take a good hard look in the mirror lately?

Perms? What about bald?

Fat? Beer bellies anyone?

And men’s excuse is just what?

Women at least have the excuse of being pregnant to blame on their bodies going to hell. Pregnancy destroys the body.

And the men who are so proud about those children that their wives bore them then turn around and complain about what that pregnancy did to their wives bodies.

If men want women who look like models, they could at least take enough care of themselves to be presentable. (I’d say look like models, but I am NOT interested in looking at a man who looks that gay)


211 posted on 04/23/2017 7:46:51 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: TigerClaws
For those interested in Men’s Rights issues, check out the new documentary RED PILL:

The concept that you have to physically abuse a woman and rough her up once in a while and she'll fall asleep with a smile on her face for it?

No thanks.

A man can be a real man without that kind of crap.

212 posted on 04/23/2017 7:48:52 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

You have all the qualities I am NOT looking for in a woman.


213 posted on 04/23/2017 7:49:45 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: gaijin
Well his daughter with Dyan Cannon is pretty attractive and says some interesting things about Grant.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1381342/Cary-Grants-daughter-admits-father-liked-called-gay-new-memoir.html

214 posted on 04/23/2017 7:50:01 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Small? It’s a huge business.


215 posted on 04/23/2017 7:50:24 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Government is like vampires though, you have to invite them in. God doesn’t need you to get a permit, and other than state laws that assume common law marriage after X amount of time (which I’ve actually known a couple people who’ve lived apart for a bit at the magic time, resetting it) you can be married in the eyes of God by a priest and retain your rights should it go wrong. Of course, if you’re sincere and in love, it should last.


216 posted on 04/23/2017 7:51:43 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Nope.

Not interested in a society that pushes that kind of nonsense.

However, it’s also not a good men/bad women meme that is being portrayed here by a lot of bitter men.

It takes BOTH to make a marriage work and it is work. Men don’t get a free ride anymore than a woman does.


217 posted on 04/23/2017 7:53:35 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

>>>If the woman wants to be in charge she needs to stay single. Then she can have total control over everything and be totally responsible for everything. Guys do not want to be in constant battle and competition with a mate.<<<

Read some dating profiles from women in their 30s. They yap about their careers. They yap about their exotic vacations to some far point on the globe. They yap about their education. What they didn’t do very often imho, is sell themselves on why they would be an asset to a guy’s life. But women bragging about their careers and education probably will be more argumentative than those that do not. Just my opinion.


218 posted on 04/23/2017 7:54:34 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: central_va
The Muzzie men don’t want to let their women do to them what western women did to their men.

SO instead they subjugate them completely.

They force them into hijabs, beat them, honor kill them, and mutilate them so they can't enjoy sex.

Sure, that's the ticket, isn't it?

219 posted on 04/23/2017 7:55:43 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
They force them into hijabs, beat them, honor kill them, and mutilate them so they can't enjoy sex.

It is a backlash against western feminist BS. Men are problem solvers, that is their Islamic solution to the problem of feminism.

The perverted aspect of this is that in Europe the women are letting in the Muslims to eventually subjugate them and that is because Western Euro fag men have been so neutered they can't reclaim what was once theirs.. Subconsciously women want their traditional roles back and they will get it in spades with their imported Muslim misogynists. Women are a perverted lot.

220 posted on 04/23/2017 8:03:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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