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To: Dilbert San Diego; cherry

Anyone is entitled to look where ever they want for a spouse, but the same question could be posed about women looking for manly foreign men.

And what’s the purpose for finding a foreign women?

Cause you can live how you want and she won’t give you any grief over it and she’ll wait on you hand and foot?

I’m no feminist and believe in traditional roles in marriage, but marriage takes work from BOTH parties. It’s not all about what women can do to make a man’s life more comfortable.

If a woman had that attitude that that’s what men were for, she’d be shredded, just like we’re seeing here on this thread.

The double standard on display here is part of the problem. Of all the comments it took until cherry’s post 166 before anyone even addressed the concept that men could be part of the reason a marriage didn’t last. If you went solely by the posts on this thread, all the men were perfect and didn’t deserve it, and all the women were psychopath gold diggers and Satan incarnate. The men are never to blame and the women always are.

Women have no business attacking a man’s manhood and the portrayal of men and women on TV is reprehensible and contributes to a lot of it.

But it takes work and sacrifice on BOTH parts and judging by the comments on this thread about why men want foreign women, what is clear is that men don’t want to work at a relationship. They just want some woman who will make herself a doormat and wait on him hand and foot so he can live as he pleases and she can’t.

And then men wonder why women leave them and they didn’t see it coming.

I have friends where the wife left him and he said that exact thing. He was blind-sided by it, said he never saw it coming, and honestly, that was a large part of the problem. He never focused outside of himself enough to realize how miserable she was. And she was no feminist either. She had very conservative views and enjoyed being a homemaker and was not the type to cheat on him.

But she finally had enough and left one day and it blew him away. I could see it coming for years. He could have too if he had really paid attention to what was going on.


207 posted on 04/23/2017 7:41:06 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
If a woman had that attitude that that’s what men were for, she’d be shredded, just like we’re seeing here on this thread.

That is where you are so so wrong.

209 posted on 04/23/2017 7:43:26 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: metmom

>>>Anyone is entitled to look where ever they want for a spouse, but the same question could be posed about women looking for manly foreign men.

And what’s the purpose for finding a foreign women?

Cause you can live how you want and she won’t give you any grief over it and she’ll wait on you hand and foot?<<<

I have done that. And in the process of traveling to visit several times I have met other guys in the terminal going for the same reason as I was. Now that she is here, she got plugged into the local community of women from her home and they are all married to American men.

Based on chatting with many men who did the same as me, most flat out reject marriage with an American woman. Some were divorced, some were never married. So the decision to go foreign was simply to get married at all. The alternative was to live life as a bachelor.

As to why they prefer foreign women, that is easy to answer. Their wives are like my own. They are modest, almost all are or were in their youth, very pretty, they are kind and the men seem content with their choice. The women are also feminine. They have long hair, hour glass waistlines, they are good homemakers, they love children and the husbands seem to be satisfied with their life.

Metmom let me put it another way. If you are a guy and you watch the old TV shows and say, I’d like a woman like June Cleaver, you know you can’t. It’s 2017 and these women really don’t exist in any great number. But if you are willing to make the sacrifice of a language/cultural barrier, you can. In fact there are more woman available to choose from than there are willing men to take them.


223 posted on 04/23/2017 8:08:12 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: metmom

“I’m no feminist and believe in traditional roles in marriage, but marriage takes work from BOTH parties”

You types always explain how its hard and takes hard work. Maybe you need to focus on it being a source of joy for a man, and not some labor he needs to endure.

And the purpose of going foreign? Simple, it’s a trip back to about 1960. With a woman who is nice, happy, and kind. What’s your hangup that you have some weirdo right to American men? Maybe we want to look at the other 96% of women on earth.

You sound EXACTLY like a union that hates non-union labor.


282 posted on 04/23/2017 9:26:32 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: metmom
I don't think most men want a wife who will literally wait on them hand and foot, but they wants to feel valued and appreciated and thanked as their provider and protector, by a wife who he can appreciate as kind, sweet and caring...Doesn't mean she has to be an uneducated kitchen-dweller by any stretch, or even that she has to make less than him or not have a career, but nothing will keep a man on the straight and narrow like a sweet, appreciative wife. And when he instead gets nagged to death by a wife who is more a provider than he can be, things go south. The problem that men are perceiving is that women these days are encouraged to be ball-busters. And women can somewhat back up their ball-busting with substance as they are now, in ever increasing numbers, more economically successful than men. Nothing hurts a man, whether he fully realizes it or not, and brings him to his worst more than being cut out of his natural, God-given role as provider and protector. So they simply become listless, selfish, porn-consuming man-children or angry manemists. The evil one always seeks to invert God's good creation.

I'm a man in my early twenties. I have a degree in an engineering field, so I'm one of a decreasing number of men who will likely be earning a decently substantial salary by my mid thirties or so if I play my cards right. I do want to have and raise a family. But I can say definitively that experience in college with the godlessness of young people was very discouraging, my experience with the godlessness of many, many young people even in supposedly Christian circles is discouraging, and the stories on this thread are discouraging. I'm not trying to set myself up as superior to others by any stretch, I'm as sinful and flawed as anyone for sure, but what I want -- a marriage in which divorce is simply not an option, period, in which as many children as God sends are welcomed (and then home-schooled so they aren't totally ignorant), in which both spouses want to give themselves totally to maintaining a godly household, just isn't what the vast majority of people seem to want. Of course, there needs to be some mutual attraction and commonality of general interests as well, and finding that combined with the above qualities of what I consider a good marriage feels like looking for a four-leaf clover.

317 posted on 04/23/2017 10:31:14 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: metmom

You appear to be a wise woman.


329 posted on 04/24/2017 12:15:54 AM PDT by Obadiah ("Juuuust a bit outside...")
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To: metmom

I may be following late in the conversation, but the reason for non-American women is that they have not had the femininity beat or schooled out of them to understand that it takes 2. I live on the DC area and had to start dating again; this place is ground zero for bad behavior in women (and men). Case studies for what many are saying here.


390 posted on 04/24/2017 10:13:42 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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