Posted on 03/26/2017 11:57:37 AM PDT by blueplum
The behind-the-scenes story of the staredown between a few dozen conservative true believers and a novice president.
....In a conference room in the Rayburn House Office Building, the group met that evening and made a secret pact. No member would commit his vote before consulting with the entire group — not even if Trump himself called to ask for an on-the-spot commitment. The idea, hatched by Freedom Caucus Vice Chairman Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), was to bind them together in negotiations and ensure the White House or House leaders could not peel them off one by one. Twenty-eight of the group's roughly three dozen members took the plunge. Three weeks later, Republican leaders, as many as 25 votes short of passage, were forced to pull their bill from the House floor. “This is a defining moment for our nation, but it's also a defining moment for the Freedom Caucus,” said group leader Mark Meadows about a week before the doomed vote was scheduled. “I don't think there's a more critical vote for the Freedom Caucus than this." The unpublicized pledge sowed the seeds of Friday’s collapse of ....
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After reading the article, I don’t think Ryan was aware that Cruz and Rand were allegedly actively working against him by asking for no-go’s to be included
And I don’t think this had anything to do with principals at all. It was junior-high game playing. 9 people voted against capping medic-aid. What’s up with that?!?
Rand, and Cruz and Lee forgot another landmine Zero left: State sovereignty. States control who goes on medic-aid, and they don’t have any enrollment limits. And the feds get to pay! What if blue states enroll their entire state? Can Congress do anything about it? How would the Gruesome Threesome explain that to the American people ?
Allow people to buy insurance out of state, may be even from out of the country. This country became great by using competition in the economy. Obamacare restricts you to buy insurance inside your state ONLY. Not to mention the mandate which is a windfall for the insurance companies. If there was one good item in the AHCA, it was elimination of the mandate.
All you need to do is read my 1 page profile to understand what type of healthcare system I want. AHCA was not even close to my wishes, but it had one good item...eliminate the mandate, which is a necessity to foster greater competition in health insurance. And there could have been phase II & III, IF PHASE I PASSED.
Now me and you are stuck with Obamacare for decades, along with Dave Brat. Planned Parenthood is very happy now.
People don’t realize that this was simply an opening salvo in a Trump negotiation. It will take a while but I think Trump will come through with something palatable. They just need to repeal the entire obamacare monster and put in place a small subsidy or HSA program for the people that are falling through the cracks or have preexisting conditions. Let everyone else use the market system.
As a corollary, should we thank God because Obamacare is now guaranteed to stay law of the land as far as the eyee can see? I think not. The purists now have nothing, zilch, zero, nada. They own Obamacare now.
It shoulda been deep sixed just on that, along with Never-Trumper PRyno
Conservatives cannot let the media off the hook and let their narrative stand unchallanged.
What the specific objections conservatives have when they killed this bill and their reasons will be buried or if conservatives are called upon to explain their position (which they won’t) never be approached by the media.
They must step forward and openly disect this piece of legislation taking it apart piece by piece and explain their position
So proud my rep. Steve Palazzo from the great state of Mississippi would remain loyal to the President with a yes vote. TRUMP COUNTRY
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In a world of $10,000 annual deductables, I’m all about having a plethora of medical testing organizations with a low overhead and taking just ca$h and near equivalents and allowing the “patient”/customer able to order their own tests.
I’m disgusted by some here siding with Ryan, PeRINO, Geraldo, Bill Kristol, and the rest of the GOPe hacks while they slam the Freedom Caucus.
Unsurprisingly, you totally miss the big picture.
The bill was a steaming pile no doubt. But it was FAR preferably to torpedoing the Trump agenda before it even got out of port. The Dems and RINOs will now only be emboldened to nuke every single aspect of it. Trump can’t successfully fight both flanks of his own party, the Dems AND MSM. Not going to happen.
This was the very first time in the Trump admin the bullets start to fly with Dems. The cut and run “conservatives” headed for the hills. Took their ball and went home. What fighters. I guess 8 years of being a doormat wasn’t enough. They want another 4 at least.
As you should be. Unfortunately, I’m beginning to think that President Trump may be “learning the wrong lesson” from this. The RINOs in the White House may be successful in convincing him that the Freedom Caucus is the enemy-—I hope I’m wrong.
Unfortunately, the Freedom Caucus stood with Nancy Pelosi. POTUS learned who will support his agenda and who will not.
“I’m ticked off that he’s blaming the Freedom Caucus when they saved him from having the albatross of Obamacare II hung around his neck by Ryan.”
I agree. It appears Trump bought into Ryan’s doublespeak about how great his bill was. I hope Trump figures out Ryan is a snake and is to be trusted on nothing.
My own Congressman said he was going to vote against the bill, and he’s far from the Freedom Caucus members on the political spectrum.
He never had to explain why he was opposing it because it was obvious: Only 16% of the voters in my district supported the Ryan bill.
POTUS wanted it. That’s all that matters at this point with so much else on the table. Either support POTUS and his complete agenda or don’t. We either hang together on this or we hang separately. The Dems/RINOS/MSM will slice and dice the Trump agenda. Wall, trade, everything. Death by a thousand cuts. Don’t give them any help, FRiend.
This is why health insurance has a lot of the same problems as auto insurance. If you are involved in a crash and you take your car to the body shop for repairs, the body shop has to fix your car but really answers to the insurance company that pays the bill. You don't care how much it costs to fix the damage because you aren't paying directly for the repairs, and the insurance company doesn't care if the body shop does a good job because they aren't driving the car when the repairs are completed.
This isn't a criticism of health insurance, mind you. It's just a way of explaining that "free market" principles have serious constraints when it comes to this type of business arrangement.
Ryancare was/is NOT obamacare repeal, it is obamacare repair and rehab.
Hell yeah!
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