Posted on 07/19/2016 10:53:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
If we don't stop making excuses for the actions of bad people, all Americans will start shooting one another.
Less than a week after five Dallas law enforcement officers were killed by a lunatic gunman, the nation is again reeling from a deadly confrontation between cops and an ex-military extremist. This past Sunday, former Marine Gavin Long gunned down three officers in Baton Rouge, a city on edge after police shot Alton Sterling, a black man, on July 5.
I dread the day one of my cop friends is shot by a crazy shooter seeking revenge for the murder of an innocent black person.
Make no mistake, I love and respect good cops. Over the years, I've become friends with many officers who try hard to connect with the black communities they serve. But I have a problem with bad cops, just like I have issues with bad African-Americans who kill innocent kids in Miami's inner-city neighborhoods.
We will never get past this issue unless the police fraternity tears down the blue wall of silence. We need to have hard conversations about cops — regardless of their race or ethnicity — protecting bad apples. Sometimes, officers do nothing though they know colleagues abuse the badge and break the law.
Homicide investigators often plead with African-Americans to end the no-snitching culture. Yet no one tells cops to do the same. Departments and unions that stop protecting bad cops can send a message that no institution is above the law. A person can be charged as an accessory to murder for witnessing a homicide and not reporting it to law enforcement. Why can't the cop who stays silent about an unjustified killing be charged with the same crime?
Even prosecutors rarely bring charges against killer cops because laws are designed to protect law enforcement officials. They also fear pissing off police departments.
We are on the verge of a civil war. If we don't stop making excuses for the actions of bad people, all Americans will start shooting one another.
What role did this publication and this reporter play in the Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin trial?
Maybe, just maybe you should take a good look at the bad people in your horrible community before you point fingers or start a war. If you had an IQ above 50 you would look ahead and figure out the outcome of that war you are talking about because it would not be fought in a way you are expecting.....you only have to look at history to see what is coming if this continues.
The stupidity of this sad, manipulated and used bunch of democrat slaves is pitiful. Democrats have kept you as their poverty slaves for votes and now they are going to get you slaughtered for their agenda if you continue this stupidity.
Thanks for proving my point.
Well guess who’ll win!
Was David Keen a police officer?
“bad cop” designation to be at discretion of misinformed mob who assume guilt aa excuse to riot and loot before any facts are known.
My kneejerk resonse is “he is full of BS,” but could be that he has a point.
Remember the Dorn case - CA cops shooting up pickup trucks that didn’t look anything like Dorns?
Remember how pissed we get when cops shoot dogs just because they can?
Remember how they seize cash - just because they can?
Cops don’t kill ‘innocent black men’ at any higher rate than they kill innocent white men, but some do have problems with their behavior and arrogance.
There area lot of issues with cops. Not enough to justify shooting them, but still there are a lot - and the cops protect the problem cops.
Two lies for the price of one. "Murder" and "innocent"
No good lazy under educated bum. Not a Police officer.
Just a good example why our INJUSTICE system is broken.
Exactly.
That has been my experience. See Post # 55.
There’s no question that the left and the right also cannot coexist peacefully together and I would gladly favor a split between the two, but even after a split there is no guarantee that they would remain conservative and liberal.
Those traits don’t appear to be hereditary. So conservative parents may end up with kids that are liberals and vice versa, and sooner or later you’ll be back to where you were. Still I’m all for trying it.
The black vs white (or asian) problem is of a different kind. Following is what I believe is the cause of the problems we see today. (Your comments, objections, etc are welcome)
When you have two groups of people...
1. with significantly different AVERAGE IQ’s (more than one standard deviation), and with
2. members of the groups that are easily identified as belonging to one group or the other
... those two groups will not be able to coexist peacefully together in the same country.
The reasons for this is as follows.
- If you have one group that has a significantly lower IQ, what kind of jobs do you think they will end up having (assuming there is absolutely no discrimination)?
- In a similar vein, how do you think the kids of the lower IQ group will do in school?
- I imagine you would answer that lower IQ group will be disproportionately represented in the menial jobs, and the lower IQ students will be over-represented in the group that flunks out. There will also be some that will have high level, good paying jobs, but much fewer, as well as students who get As, but again much fewer.
- Given human nature, what do you think the consequences of such reality is going to be in the society. How will the various groups react?
- Well, it is a human trait to identify with groups, and what you look like is definitely one of the things we strongly identify with. Racial features are foremost in that identification. So the people who identify through their looks with the low IQ group are going to feel very resentful of the fact that so many of their “brothers” occupy the low rung of the ladder, and they will want to know why. And if you tell them that it’s because on the average that group has lower IQ, that will only get them more incensed, especially if they have been told that all races are on the average equal.
- There will also be plenty in the higher IQ group who, through guilt or ignorance or “fairness” will side with the grievances of the other group. Thus a coalition is formed against the remaining majority of the Higher IQ group to address those grievances.
- The choice that this majority has is to either comply, by giving in to their demands, or to resist those demands. Resisting the demands will result in protests, riots and violence. To possibly avoid that, the majority caves, and so it institutes anti-discrimination laws, preferential treatments, diversity, multiculturalism and on and on.
- This only exacerbates the problem, because the people getting preferential treatment will actually now perform even worse than before, because they know they can get away with it. On noticing this the majority gets even more incensed and prejudiced, escalating the problem even more, sooner or later ending up with more demands on the part of the lower IQ group and its allies.
- And again the majority is at the proverbial fork in the road of having to decide to say enough is enough (which probably means war or some type of separation) or to appease one more time.
And that’s why I say that two easily identifiable groups with significantly different AVERAGE IQ, CANNOT (as in logical certitude) coexist peacefully together. It is truly a tragic reality, but a reality nonetheless. And yes you may have black friends that are the exception to the rule, but it is not the individual case that matters here. It is the group dynamics based on averages.
The above statement can also be applied to cultural differences, demonstrating why multiculturalism is such an utter failure. Here’s that general statement.
Two groups of people with diametrically opposed world views cannot coexist peacefully together. That goes for islam and the west, communism and the west, naziism and the west, fascism and the west, etc. The basic values that clash in these cases is that we believe in freedom with responsibility, the other groups don’t.
The conclusion from the above discussion is...
If you want a peaceful harmonious society, it’s best if the population is homogeneous (or if not homogeneous, each identifiable group has roughly similar AVERAGE IQs) and that there is a single dominant culture (i.e. set of values).
The scandinavian countries were perfect example of that, but they found their society too peaceful, too boring. So they wanted to add a little spice and started importing people who don’t look like them nor believe what they believe. I understand that life there is no longer boring, but I wonder if they find their women getting raped, other crimes skyrocketing, supporting millions of idle fanatics, their free speech muzzled... I wonder if they are starting to find that a bit too exciting.
What you have said is certainly true. I’d hate to hear what a progressive would call you to your face :-)
The average IQ of any group means little on a personal basis.
Look at Herman Cain, an eloquent mathematician!
Asians on the average have a slightly higher IQ than the group I’m in... but my IQ is far above the Asian average... the average again means nothing on a personal level. [I’m English/Ashkenazi Jewish]
The troubles we have are indeed caused by the problems you stated... but I fear we will never find a solution.
I do believe in ‘White Man’s Burden’ we should endeavor to do what we can, within reason, for those not as blessed as we are.
I can tell you have an excellent IQ just from the fine reasoning in your post. FR is a place where high-functioning folk come together.
Bring it, a**hole.
Bring it.
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“I’d hate to hear what a progressive would call you to your face :-)”
I have talked about it to some of my liberal acquaintances and surprisingly I didn’t run into any strong blowback. I think many realize the same thing but are too PC to say it.
“The average IQ of any group means little on a personal basis.
Look at Herman Cain, an eloquent mathematician!”
And Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Ben Carson, Condi Rice, Allen West and many many more. It’s all in the Bell Curve distribution. And you’re right, on a personal basis the average means nothing because you don’t randomly pick your friends, but on a societal basis the average dominates.
” the average again means nothing on a personal level. [I’m English/Ashkenazi Jewish]”
Your group has one of the highest average IQs. I think it explains why jews have been persecuted for so long - it’s the envy effect. It’s what the whites are facing now vis-a-vis the blacks.
“I do believe in ‘White Man’s Burden’ we should endeavor to do what we can, within reason, for those not as blessed as we are.”
Ah, but that’s the nub of the problem - who determines what “within reason” is? The vast majority of whites already believe they’ve gone beyond what’s reasonable in accommodating blacks’ demands, but the black don’t think so. And the more you appease the more incessant the demands (as is all too clear with what’s happening today).
You see, when you say WE should provide help within reason, that implies a type of voluntary charity on our part, where we, the givers, alone determine what’s reasonable and deserved, in return for which we would expect some gratitude.
But we are absolutely in a completely different territory. We are not at all dealing in transactions of charity and gratitude. Instead we are in the realm of extortion, where the receivers DEMAND a ransom under threat of violence to the givers.
This is a totally untenable situation and it cannot last. It’s either voluntary separation or forceful separation.
It’s interesting to know what Lincoln thought about separation....
http://www.etymonline.com/cw/lincoln.htm
Sorry.
Right now we are more divided than we were before the civil war.
The only things saving us from a civil war are bread and circuses, or, in our case, welfare and cheap cable.
Those and the fact the divisions are not binary, but multi-factional. As soon as the sides break down to two or three, and the power or cable goes out, it’s on.
THe bad news is that the next civil war will look more like Lebanon than like the US Civil War.
Again, rather unfortunately, you are correct my FRiend.
What to do, what to do....
If Hillary wins I’m moving to Israel...seriously...
“Right now we are more divided than we were before the civil war.’
Incorrect. Not even close. The division between the North and the South began around 1810 and increased until the break out of the Civil War.
Can you imagine the outrage if someone wrote an article that the black community needed to stop protecting their bad members?
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