Posted on 06/28/2016 10:34:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
With Congress lined up for a battle over whether women should be required to register for the draft, theres one group that is solidly against the idea, a new poll suggests: women themselves.
Women are much less likely than men to say women should be required to register for Selective Service when they turn 18, according to a poll conducted June 18-20 by The Economist/YouGov. Thirty-nine percent of women supported registration for women, compared to 61 percent of men.
The question is largely theoretical since the United States ended the draft in 1973 as the Vietnam War was winding down. Men have been required since 1980 to register when they turn 18. Draft eligibility expires at 26. But the question has come to signify a deeper discussion about gender equality in the military, and it took on new weight last week when the Senate approved a military policy bill that, for the first time, would require women to register.
The legislation will now have to be reconciled with the House version, which would require only a study on the draft issue.
Polling experts cautioned that feminists have frequently argued against the draft in general, and that women are historically less hawkish than men.
Both issues could explain some of the gender division on the question of the draft in this poll, which asked only whether women should be required to register, whether they should be allowed to serve in combat units and whether allowing them to serve in combat roles would open more opportunities for women in the military. The Pentagon this year opened combat roles for women.
Without follow-up questions asking if respondents were against the draft in general or just against women participating it is difficult to come to conclusions about the gender divide, said Ilya Somin, a George Mason University law professor whose research focuses on constitutional law, property law and popular political participation.
The better solution is not have draft registration at all, then we get rid of the sex discrimination and we get rid of the infringement on peoples personal liberty, he said.
Kate Germano, chief operating officer for the Service Womens Action Network, said similar polls attempting to determine public opinion on the draft have found differences based on the age or demographics of the respondents. She welcomed the debate in Congress.
Requiring women to register for the draft, if it is indeed necessary, represents that last hurdle being cleared for women being perceived as equal in the military, she said.
Male and female lawmakers in both bodies have expressed support for universal conscription. They include Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a former Vietnam prisoner of war who noted last week that the provision was supported by all the female members of the Senate panel.
But the idea has riled conservatives in both bodies. Sen. Ted Cruz, for instance, said last week that he voted against the entire policy bill because of it.
Despite the many laudable objectives in this bill, I could not in good conscience vote to draft our daughters into the military, sending them off to war and forcing them into combat, Cruz said.
Cruz screwed the pooch on more than one occasion over the course of the primary, but he was and remains the only candidate this cycle to firmly, unequivocally condemn the utterly absurd, politically-driven and dangerous move to integrate women into military units where they simply do not belong.
Well, someone should tell Trump this is a WINNER!!
“She wants you to go and carry 100 pound backpacks like men!! To drag a 200 pound man off the battlefield, and if you can’t, you both die!! It’s insanity!! And she wants it.”
The first requirement should be if the woman is a democrat? If she is then she should have to register for the draft and put in a combat role.
The only reason women are exempt from the draft is because women were not allowed to have combat MOS’s (Military Occupational Specialties). Women were barred from combat. Since that is no longer the case than there is no longer a reason not to draft woman. Now I think it is insane to draft women and send them into combat. Total insanity and immoral. However perhaps that is what it is going to take to end this crazy idea of women in combat. If drafting little Suzy will stop women from getting combat MOSs then I say draft little Suzy.
Wait till they actually get drafted and put into boot camp. Sure many of them will make it through PC compliant / affirmative action boot camp but wait till they set their feet onto the battlefield and feel the bullets whiz by their head a few times. It will get real, real fast...
“Requiring women to register for the draft, if it is indeed necessary, represents that last hurdle being cleared for women being perceived as equal in the military, she said.
I’ll bet the Trannies are confused about which way to go. So to speak.
just basic progressive insanity.
Women do not have the same physical traits as men, and visa versa.
This comes from the party of “science” that says if you think you are a woman, just put on a dress so you can pee in the woman’s restroom and shower with the girls.
This old man will pick up a rifle and go fight the Islamofascists before I will let one of my daughters think about going.
The sissybi*ches on the left prefer to send women because they are less than men.
She needs a big dose of no-safe-space gender equality.
As a small tank?
A couple months of remedial PT would get people down to size.
If there is a situation such that our survival depends upon having women serving in combat roles, then they should. Registering for the draft is the mechanism whereby such women will be identified and inducted.
There was some question about the wisdom of inducting Japanese Americans during World War II. The solution was to make up units consisting mainly of such men and having them serve in the European Theater. They distinguished themselves quite well.
If units made up of women succeed, then they should be inducted. We won't know the answer until the day comes that the proper question is asked. Until that time, women should be registered and available for service.
If that makes the liberals squeamish, all the better.
No, women were exempt because cubicles countries recognize the need for mothers to be with their children. The feminist movement said that’s all bunk - and now we have “conservatives” agreeing with the feminists
Good Lord, what IS that?
They were legally exempt by SCOTUS in Rostker v. Goldberg. SCOTUS decided that women were not required to register:
And since women are excluded from combat service by statute or military policy, men and women are simply not similarly situated for purposes of a draft or registration for a draft, and Congress' decision to authorize the registration of only men therefore does not violate the Due Process Clause.
Since Obamas policy has now put women into combat service, it violates the Due Process Clause.
This is just another liberal/uniparty diversionary divide and conquer issue.
Right, well, I know I am going to ruffle some feathers with this but here goes:
ANY military “Draft” is illegal. When a country reaches a point where even the bare minimum of its citizenry cannot muster enough courage to defend themselves, that country effectively ceases to exist.
That being said...
If the idiots we have in charge of this country by whatever means they got there decide that a “draft” is mandated, then you can not exclude women from it purely based upon their gender -well, I mean of course you can, but by what logical reason? Their internal plumbing?
If you force one such as I to undergo boot camp training then you had better well have females forced to undergo the same thing and for the same reasons, otherwise you are merely playing politically-correct games with the citizens involved and your reasons for doing so are automatically suspect.
I do not believe women should be forced into combat positions, but I also do not believe women should be excluded from any “draft” simply because they are female.
You wanted equality to males, you got it.
Live with it.
” If drafting little Suzy will stop women from getting combat MOSs then I say draft little Suzy.”
I completely agree.
I’ll go a step farther. Re-institute the draft and start taking 20% of the HS graduates regardless of gender every year and take skew the draft to areas where fewer young people volunteer to provide “equitable” representation of the entire US population - no exception except for physical or mental disabilities that are strictly defined.
A step farther still. Make Federal student loans and Pell Grants available only to those with military service.
Farther still: How about 8 years military service = 4 years of tuition at a state university?
Oh, and do I really need to bring up again how so many women in the military suddenly wound up pregnant when the time came to deploy outside of CONUS where they would actually have to participate in military maneuvres?
The U.S. Navy has a continuing problem with that in that female squadron members for some strange reason seem to keep becoming pregnant quite soon after notices were posted of the units upcoming deployment.
Strange, no?
It won’t be log before we hear some guy refusing to sign up for selective service because he identifies as female.
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