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Harambe and the GorillaLivesMatter Movement that needs tranquilizing
Flopping Aces ^ | 05-31-16 | Wordsmith

Posted on 05/31/2016 4:44:18 PM PDT by Starman417

Harambe, a 17-year-old gorilla at the Cincinnati Zoo is pictured in this undated handout photo provided by Cincinnati Zoo. REUTERS/Cincinnati Zoo/Handout via ReutersATTENTION EDITORS - THIS PICTURE WAS PROVIDED BY A THIRD PARTY. REUTERS IS UNABLE TO INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY THE AUTHENTICITY, CONTENT, LOCATION OR DATE OF THIS IMAGE. THIS PICTURE IS DISTRIBUTED EXACTLY AS RECEIVED BY REUTERS, AS A SERVICE TO CLIENTS. FOR EDITORIAL USE ONLY. NO RESALES. NO ARCHIVES.

Over the weekend, social media was abuzz with outrage over the killing of Harambe, a 17-year-old male Western lowland silverback gorilla.

There's a "gorillalivesmatter" movement afoot, including the hashtag #JusticeForHarambe.

Just look at the comment from some moral dullard named Edwin Morales as example:

Awful Huffpost! Because of the mother's lack of vigilance and attention towards her own child, this Gorilla had to die. Putting humans lives over animals is never right, especially not after that gorilla was taken away from his home to be shown off to the world as part of some circus (zoo)
Initial reaction of social media activists was to

1. Deplore the zoo for keeping animals entrapped in the first place.
2. Blame the mom/parents.
3. Blame the Cincinnati Zoo for not having better barriers in place.
4. Question why didn't the zoo use tranquilizer guns instead.
5. Claim Harambe probably would not have hurt the child.

I've read a lot of comments from the morally outraged who assume careless parenting. I've seen some writing, "Get off the cell phone" without even knowing what the mother was doing at the time her son slipped through the barrier.

The site has crashed, but a blogpost worth reading for the Monday morning moms: My kid would never fall into a gorilla pit because I'm an attentive parent and other lies we tell ourselves .

Slate also has an article questioning the parental shame-blame over empathy:

people—with their aversion to uncertainty and villianless tragedy—need someone to blame and are targeting the boy’s parents with their ire.

A petition on Change.org with more than 300,000 signatures states the following:

This beautiful gorilla lost his life because the boy's parents did not keep a closer watch on the child. We the undersigned believe that the child would not have been able to enter the enclosure under proper parental supervision. … We the undersigned want the parents to be held accountable for the lack of supervision and negligence that caused Harambe to lose his life. We the undersigned feel the child's safety is paramount in this situation. ...We the undersigned actively encourage an investigation of the child's home environment in the interests of protecting the child and his siblings from further incidents of parental negligence that may result in serious bodily harm or even death.

This condemnation of the parents is making its way around social media, too. Comedian Ricky Gervais—not, last I checked, a primatologist—tweeted: “It seems that some gorillas make better parents than some people.” It has more than 5,000 retweets and 11,000 likes. D.L. Hughley tweeted that he thinks the boys’ parents should go to jail. There’s a meme that reads: “I was killed because a bitch wasn’t watching her child.” And de Waal concludes his popular Facebook post with: “At least, we can all agree that people should watch their children!” There are those, including PETA, who are criticizing the zoo for failing to have an adequate barrier around the gorilla enclosure. But that critique is gaining less traction than the one focused on the boy’s parents.

Children can’t always be watched, even by the most competent of parents. I am also a mother of a 3-year-old boy and have had to take my eyes off of him in a public setting for a variety of reasons, many of which involve digging through the bottom of the stroller to locate sunscreen or his water bottle. Other times it’s to assess oncoming traffic or to find the cereal he absolutely must eat in the morning. The brief absence of surveillance involves a calculated risk, sure, but it’s one parents must take in order to take care of their families. While I can’t speak about the competence of the parents of the boy who fell into the gorilla enclosure, I can say with certainty that there is no parent out there who has never looked away from his or her child for even a moment.

Michelle Gregg is identified as the mother. She had posted an FB response to the backlash; but has since deleted it.

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Eyewitness Deirdre Lykins' account:

I was taking a pic of the female gorilla, when my eldest son yells, “what is he doing? ” I looked down, and to my surprise, there was a small child that had apparently, literally “flopped” over the railing, where there was then about 3 feet of ground that the child quickly crawled through! ! I assumed the woman next to me was the mother, getting ready to grab him until she says, “Whose kid is this? ” None of us actually thought he’d go over the nearly 15 foot drop, but he was crawling so fast through the bushes before myself or husband could grab him, he went over! The crowed got a little frantic and the mother was calling for her son. Actually, just prior to him going over, but she couldn’t see him crawling through the bushes! She said “He was right here! I took a pic and his hand was in my back pocket and then gone!” As she could find him nowhere, she lookes to my husband (already over the railing talking to the child) and asks, “Sir, is he wearing green shorts? ” My husband reluctantly had to tell her yes, when she then nearly had a break down! They are both wanting to go over into the 15 foot drop, when I forbade my husband to do so, and attempted to calm the mother by calling 911 and assure her help was on the way. Neither my husband or the mother would have made that jump without breaking something! I wasn’t leaving with my boys, because I didn’t trust my husband not to jump in and the gorilla did just seem to be protective of the child. It wasn’t until the gorilla became agitated because of the nosey, dramatic, helpless crowd; that the gorilla violently ran with the child! And it was very violent; although I think the gorilla was still trying to protect, we’re taking a 400 lb gorilla throwing a 40 lb toddler around! It was horrific! The zoo responded very quickly, clearing the area and attempting to save both the child and the gorilla! The right choice was made. Thank God the child survived with non-life threatening, but serious injuries! This was an open exhibit! Which means the only thing separating you from the gorillas, is a 15 ish foot drop and a moat and some bushes! ! This mother was not negligent and the zoo did an awesome job handling the situation! Especially since that had never happened before! ! Thankful for the zoo and their attempts and my thoughts and prayers goes out to this boy, his mother and his family.
More:
Another witness, Brittany Nicely, told the Cincinnati Enquirer, “Out of the corner of my eye, I saw the little boy in the bushes past the little fence area. I tried to grab for him. I started yelling at him to come back. Everybody started screaming and going crazy. It happened so fast.”

Lykins defended Gregg, writing on Facebook, “This was an accident! ! A terrible accident, but just that!”

The zoo’s director said he doesn’t like to point fingers during a press conference Monday, and also appeared to defend the mother.

“Do you know any four-year-olds? They can climb over anything,” director Thane Maynard told reporters.

Now social media activists are harassing other Facebook users named "Michelle Gregg". Check out a couple of funny profile picture changes these women made.

3. According to the Director, the barriers are sound and in "compliance with federal regulations and the Association of Zoos and Aquariums". Of course, they will be looking into ways to further strengthen the barriers in light of what happened.

5. Some, like PETA's Julia Gallucci, claim

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cincinnati; cincinnatizoo; election2016; gorilla; harambe; newyork; ohio; trump
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
It’s sad, but the zoo officials did what had to be done. For that they deserve our respect.

But...but...they made me feeeel sad. It's all their fault that I feeeel sad.

I feeeel sad and somebody should be punished.


21 posted on 05/31/2016 5:13:08 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Starman417

Sorry, the exhibit needs to be better sealed.

A little boy is not the only creature that could get into that gorilla exhibit.


22 posted on 05/31/2016 5:13:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

What other creature are you thinking? Nothing would take on a gorilla, not even a lion.


23 posted on 05/31/2016 5:19:12 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: ichabod1

A foolish creature... even if it ended up gorilla food, it could still give a disease to the gorilla.


24 posted on 05/31/2016 5:20:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Blue Jays
Is it that difficult to have childproof barriers

You'd think there'd be some kind of enclosure. The way that situation looks, people could throw things in the gorilla habitat. It doesn't look like a real good situation.

25 posted on 05/31/2016 5:21:31 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania

They probably don’t want the chicken wire look.


26 posted on 05/31/2016 5:23:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: RoosterRedux
the zoo people did what they HAD to do....sad it meant killing a zoo animal but I'd rather have that on my conscience than the death of a young child....

I wish the parents could have held on to that boys hand better....I wish it never happened, but it was an accident...

I'm glad the boy is okay...

people that think the gorilla was being "nice" to the boy or "protective" are the same people that think hamburger comes from the store.....

27 posted on 05/31/2016 5:23:38 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Starman417

But the parents just waited around for someone to do something? I guarantee if that was my 3 year old I’d go straight into that cage.


28 posted on 05/31/2016 5:24:27 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: cherry

Some gorilla behaviorists may disagree with you. But in the absence of same on the scene, they understandably assumed the worst.


29 posted on 05/31/2016 5:25:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Starman417
HE IS



THE MOST INTERESTING GORILLA IN THE WORLD.

30 posted on 05/31/2016 5:28:57 PM PDT by Rastus (#AlwaysTrump #NeverHillary)
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To: cherry

When Harambe got the boy, he kept the boy’s head above the water. That gorilla might be smarter than some Freepers. If gorilla was thinking food or enemy, that would not have happened.

This is a people panic story among other things. Echos of King Kong?


31 posted on 05/31/2016 5:30:15 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: mountn man

Hey, Bungalow Bill! What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?

I can allow for people’s panicky lack of information. With human intelligence comes the potential for abuse.

That gorilla may have had more presence of mind than the people.


32 posted on 05/31/2016 5:33:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: MNDude

"...But the parents just waited around for someone to do something? I guarantee if that was my 3 year old I’d go straight into that cage..."


Very brave sentiment.
A gorilla has the combined strength of many grown adult humans.
Absolutely brave to jump in, yet simultaneously very futile.
What actually happened was the best possible outcome.


33 posted on 05/31/2016 5:35:33 PM PDT by Blue Jays
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To: cherry

34 posted on 05/31/2016 5:37:47 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Blue Jays

With the open “enclosure” like that, to foresee something getting chucked into the pen, if not finding its way in there, would not have been beyond human intelligence, even if it was beyond simian.

Just because you have caged a gorilla doesn’t mean you have to think like you think a gorilla does.

I very much doubt the curtain has come even CLOSE to ringing down on this drama... to the courts it definitely is going to go.

#MonkeyBusinessMatters


35 posted on 05/31/2016 5:39:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Are you suggesting that a wild gorilla holding a small child, say, for example, your child, should be trusted to treat it gently? Were it still alive, would you drop down and give that gorilla a hug? If not, why not?


36 posted on 05/31/2016 5:40:42 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: Starman417

I would love to have this gorilla after the taxidermist prepared it.
Would be cool in my home.


37 posted on 05/31/2016 5:44:04 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: Blue Jays

At worst I would distract the gorilla long enough from the three year old as we’d dual it out, even if the gorilla would win.

Realisticly, it would look like this (minus the green skin) https://youtu.be/SN0XpR3D-fE


38 posted on 05/31/2016 5:44:09 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

I actually think it very very likely that the gorilla would not have, er, gorilla-handled the lad, based on how it already acted. It did not act as though it had seen either food or enemy. It acted as though it was thinking “gorilla cub.”

That said (1) if the boy began to fight back, the gorilla’s idea might have changed; and (2) getting the boy back from the gorilla might have been a challenge, and (3) maybe the boy did need to be seen quickly for sake of injuries he suffered in the fall. I can allow for human panic here. I just want to observe that the gorilla seemed to be calmer than the people, and didn’t do anything obviously wrong.


39 posted on 05/31/2016 5:49:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

And I hope the zoo says damn the chicken wire look, we are going to enclose that pen properly now.


40 posted on 05/31/2016 5:52:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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