Is the Colorado fiasco backfiring on Cruz?

Red State Watcher ^ | 4/16/2016

[BlackFemaleArmyColonel]

Is the Colorado fiasco backfiring on Cruz?

[tennmountainman]

Cruz is in a real pickle.

If he is the nomination he will lose in the general.
He will be blamed and his political career over.
I doubt he even finishes his senate term.

The only positive outcome is if he is picked as Trumps VP.
He saves face and his political career continues.

If he is not the VP pick, his career is over.
That is the pickle Cruz is in.

[Theo]

Why would Trump’s fumble in Colorado backfire on Cruz?

[XEHRpa]

>>> Of course he did. He just did it in a lawyer-esque way, giving a brief sentence of lip service against the criminal Left wing thugs who forced the cancellation of a GOP rally, and then proceeding to smear Donald Trump.

I believe the legal term is “yabuttal”, as in “yeah, those protesters shouldn’t have done that BUT Donald brought it on himself.”

That is the incident that turned me from Ted.

[lonestar67]

I live very close to the shooting here at garland

Your guy said geller caused the shooting and brought it on herself and our community

I’m not fooled by your evasion

Trump says whatever is popular in a moment

Cruz criticized the protesters but trump is outrageous to encourage his supporters to attack protesters. That’s a fact.

Trump is clueless about the delegates process and is constantly surprised he doesn’t have all expected delegates

He is the deal maker but all he does is whine about others cheating when he is the one that is making mistakes

[mkjessup]

Regarding your tagline:

It would appear you were indeed, born that way.

[Monitor]

So Trump devotes no resources to win Colorado, and predictably loses, and it’s Cruz’s fault?

Must be some great Koolaid you Branch Trumpidians are drinking.

[XEHRpa]

>>> Why would Trump’s fumble in Colorado backfire on Cruz?

It has nothing to do with Trump’s fumble. He fumbled because he is a political novice and not an insider. The backfire comes from the fact that without asking the public to cast a single vote in a statewide primary or caucus, the insiders come to the smoke-filled room and decide who gets the delegates.

That Cruz relishes that aspect of the process, calling it his “superior ground game” just makes voters that much turned off to the establishment. That doesn’t make it illegal, but the optics of it stink to high heaven. Terrible marketing for the party, and by association, Cruz.

[grania]

There is NO WAY folks will accept Cruz as VP. The stench of his campaign tactics will never go away.

[DoughtyOne]

Agreed...

[sarasmom]

The only way Cruz gets even a thought of a shot at VP, is if Clinton picks Bernie for her VP.

Even then, Cruz would cost Trump the election, and hence will not be tapped for that position.

Nobody cares about his “saving face and/or his political career” other than his loyal (and misguided) supporters.

[tennmountainman]

I hear you.

I’m not saying it will happen. Just that is the only face saving winning
option for Cruz.

If he is the nominee he is finished because he will lose the general.

If he is not the VP he will be finished, as well.
He will return to the senate a much deminished and more hated man.

[jonrick46]

I just talked to my cousin in Colorado Springs. He said the Republican clique knew the rules could be manipulated to create the outcome they wanted. In this case, how people were put on the ballot excluded Trump supporters. People at the convention described the situation they encountered:

"Herron and I and another friend were volunteers at the Trump table at the Colorado Republican State Assembly on Saturday, 4/9/2016 and witnessed a lot of confusion regarding these numbers.

When I arrived at the table at around noon, I was told by other volunteers that some of the numbers that were printed on the official Trump slates (Exhibit A) were wrong and needed to be changed. My understanding from speaking with Becky is the numbers on the slate were taken directly off of the Colorado GOP website. In trying to ascertain what the correct numbers should be, I looked in the Assembly & Convention program (Exhibit B, Paid for by the Colorado Republican Committee, www.cologop.org) and noticed that the numbers only went up to 588, yet for 4 of the delegates on the slate, their numbers were higher than 588, and therefore not listed in the program."

"I witnessed several Trump delegates coming to the volunteer table, confused and frustrated, asking what numbers they should be using to vote for people on the Trump slate. While I was helping one gentleman fill out his ballot, I noticed errors/misprints on the ballots themselves, e.g. two number 523’s but no 513, two 378’s, but no 379. I also noticed there were 948 numbers on the ballot, but as far as I could tell delegate numbers only went up to 619.

One woman reported that she was very angry that numbers corresponding to Trump delegates were left off the ballot. I do not have specifics on this, other than #379, Nicolas Robert Neitzel…

…Another woman/Trump supporter, reported that she was an alternate delegate and was elevated to delegate, and then was told they made a mistake and the delegate credential she had been given was ripped up. She said she was elevated again and then dropped back down to alternate a 2nd time. She was visibly upset, said I feel like I’m in a third world country and left without filling out her ballot…"

Also, weeks before the convention, the following resolution was being sent out to those registered to the convention:

" Resolution to Forbid Colorado Delegates from Voting for Donald Trump

Whereas Donald Trump is not a Republican; and

Whereas Donald Trump is a demagogue who is using fear, hate, and lies to assemble a mob in support of an agenda of socialist policy, unlimited government, and strongman rule; and

Whereas Donald Trump would destroy the Western alliance which is the basis of American security; and

Whereas Donald Trump would destroy the system of international trade which is the basis of American prosperity; and

Whereas Donald Trump would destroy the freedom of the press that is the basis of American liberty; and

Whereas Donald Trump would destroy the rule of law which is the basis of American civil society; and

Whereas Donald Trump has mocked those who risked their lives to fight for America when he avoided doing so; and

Whereas Donald Trump has acted as an apologist for America’s enemy Vladimir Putin and other brutal anti-American foreign tyrants; and

Whereas Donald Trump has set himself forth as an open exponent of lust, greed, and other vices antithetical to Judeo-Christian ethics and the moral fiber necessary to sustain a republic; and

Whereas Donald Trump has demonstrated that he has no respect for the truth, and

Whereas Donald Trump has defrauded thousands of ordinary Americans of their life savings; and

Whereas Donald Trump has, in the course of the present campaign, committed acts potential prosecutable as incitement to riot, a federal crime punishable by up to five years in prison; and

Whereas Donald Trump has knowingly acted to degrade the Republican presidential nominating process to a vile level that can only serve to drive people of talent and integrity out of the party and assist in the election of the party’s opponents; and

Whereas the nomination of Donald Trump for president would insure a landslide defeat for the Republican Party nationwide in the fall, and deeply damage the Republican Party and the conservative movement for years, and possibly decades to come; and

Whereas a vote for Donald Trump by any member of the Colorado delegation to the Republican National Convention would dishonor and disgrace the Colorado Republican Party;

Therefore, be it resolved that:

The Colorado Republican Party forbids any of its delegates to the Republican National Convention to vote for Donald Trump for president or vice president on the first ballot or any other ballot, and The Colorado Republican Party asks its delegates to national convention to pledge on their honor to do everything in their power to help secure the presidential nomination for someone other than Donald Trump.

Donald Trump has threatened the Republican Party with mob violence. Let’s tell him where to go!

[BlackFemaleArmyColonel]

So Trump devotes no resources to win Colorado, and predictably loses, and it’s Cruz’s fault?

Must be some great Koolaid you Branch Trumpidians are drinking.
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So Trump was denied a legal vote in Colorado, and it’s his fault Cruz cheated?

Must be some great Koolaid you Branch Cruznadians are drinking.

[mojo114]

Cruz is creepy. Yes it is. Hopefully.

[BlackFemaleArmyColonel]

Wow.

[ScottinVA]

What “fiasco?”

[Future Useless Eater]

It would really be awesome if Trump were to pay a well respected polling company to prove that in one or more of these recent convention-states, actual voters would have favored him by a big margin over Cruz. There is already some data to suggest that’s true in all three states

[boycott]

It would really be awesome if Trump were to pay a well respected polling company to prove that in one or more of these recent convention-states, actual voters would have favored him by a big margin over Cruz. There is already some data to suggest that’s true in all three states

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Agree. Seems one of the polling companies would want to do so themselves for the extra attention.

[MamaB]

From what I am seeing on FB, people are very, very angry. I have never seen anything like it. I like to read comments and read hundreds a day. They are really angry at the GOP. If Trump is not the nominee, most say they will write his name in. None has said they will vote dem, though.

[MamaB]

You are not reading what I am then. People are very angry at what happened and are fed up. A lot of them were former Cruz supporters.