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Trump touts terrific tariff to fix manufacturing job loss in New York
The Washington Examiner ^ | April 10, 2016 | Kyle Feldscher

Posted on 04/11/2016 5:10:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Donald Trump played up his plans to tax companies that move jobs out of the United States as he tried to appeal to blue collar workers in a New York rally Sunday.

Speaking for about an hour Sunday in Rochester, N.Y., Trump recited statistics about the area's loss of manufacturing jobs and economic hardship in recent years. He reiterated his desire to tax goods sold by companies once based in the United States that moved away to find cheaper labor.

The plan has been widely panned by economic experts. But the Rochester crowd ate it up.

"I'm the only one that knows how to stop them," Trump said to cheers. "I would stop them so fast your head would spin."

Trump is leading the polls in the Republican primary in his home state by a big margin. He's up by more than 30 points over Ohio Gov. John Kasich and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. He is working to top 50 percent in the New York in a bid to capture all the 95 delegates the state will send to the Republican convention. That would help Trump come closer in what now appears an uphill bid to secure 1,237 delegates he needs to secure the GOP nomination outright. He currently has 743 pledged delegates.

Much of Trump's speech was delivered in the entertaining but rambling style he brings to many of his rallies, with protesters causing only minor disruptions.

Trump's themes included adding manufacturing jobs, a concession to his location. But he focused mostly on his standard topics, the media's malignancy, the injustice of the Republican nominating process, and pulling American troops out of other countries. Trump suggested the U.S. take troops out of South Korea and instead give the task the Japanese, whose military is limited by a U.S.-framed Constitution drawn up after World War II. Korea was a Japanese colony from 1910 to 1945, a brutal occupation that even today drives hostility between the countries.

Trump's musing came after he repeated his desire to see the United States withdraw from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization if the other countries don't "pay their fair share" for U.S. military protection. Trump said American soldiers should be back in the United States protecting the homeland instead of protecting South Korea from North Korea.

"There is a school of thought that Japan would be better off dealing with [North Korean ruler Kim Jong-un] and we could sit back and watch on television for a change," Trump said. "Would that make sense?"

Seconds later, Trump said he doesn't want to see Japan rearm, but believes they need to pay their fair share.

Trump also responded to the decision by the Boston Globe's decision to run a mock front page with headlines predicting the results of Trump policies by mocking the company's finances.

"How about that stupid Boston Globe," he said. "It's worthless. It sold for a dollar," he said.

"And then they run editorials telling me what I should be doing about Japan and Saudi Arabia and North Korea," he said sarcastically.

Trump also accused Jeff Bezos, the owner of the Washington Post and Amazon, of using the newspaper to protect Amazon from taxes.

"It was a loser, losing money hand over fist and it was purchased by the gentleman who runs and has a big stake in Amazon," Trump said.

"Now, he uses that as a political weapon because he doesn't want to pay taxes at Amazon," Trump said. "That's all it is folks. It's so simple."

Trump also drew comparisons between himself and his fellow New York City native, Sen. Bernie Sanders.

During a portion of his speech complaining about losing delegates to Cruz in Louisiana, Trump said it's unfair that the will of voters in primaries and caucuses could be undermined at a convention due to delegate selection processes.

He said it's the same thing happening to Sanders on the Democratic side, where he sees Sanders winning states but being told he has no chance.

"When I look at it and whether it's me or it's Bernie Sanders, and I see all these victories that I have and the victories that he's got and then you look at the establishment," Trump said, "And I want to tell you that it's a corrupt deal that's going on in this country."


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1 posted on 04/11/2016 5:10:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You damned bettcha.


2 posted on 04/11/2016 5:11:52 PM PDT by WENDLE (REMEMBER COLORADO!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The plan has been widely panned by economic experts.

The same "experts" who have led us into multi-TRILLION dollar debt.

3 posted on 04/11/2016 5:12:34 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Um, no. The opposite experts in fact.

Protectionism helps a few connected citizens to the detriment of the no connected.

The same people getting screwed would get screwed worse.


4 posted on 04/11/2016 5:15:48 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Talisker

If these people are experts then our teaching of economics at all grade levels is appalling. We’re already bad at math and science as a nation. You can add accounting to that list too.


5 posted on 04/11/2016 5:18:26 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Talisker

I am sure the same experts that supported GATT, Nafta, TPA, TPP, etc.?

Ted would fit in well with this group.


6 posted on 04/11/2016 5:18:30 PM PDT by boycott (--s)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I presume Apple would be high on Trumps Target List. His deal for Apple: Fire those 500,000 Chinese and bring your manufacturing back to the U.S. or I will tax all your iPhones and iPads.

Or something like that.

Is that really a good idea? Do we really the U.S. Government making these kind of business decisions?

I don’t think so.


7 posted on 04/11/2016 5:20:46 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Jewbacca
Um, no. The opposite experts in fact. Protectionism helps a few connected citizens to the detriment of the no connected. The same people getting screwed would get screwed worse.

Um, no yourself. The phrase "protectionism" describes the abuse of tariffs. The non- use of tariffs in an uneven regulatory playing field is, indeed, sabotaging this country. That's WHY China and India don't impose American level tariffs. Denying this simple, obvious fact isn't even stupidity - it's lying.

8 posted on 04/11/2016 5:21:10 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Jewbacca

You know who else loves free trade? That German guy from the 1800s who gave birth to the wretched political system that bears his last name and is the same as Groucho.


9 posted on 04/11/2016 5:24:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Rafael Cruz: Canadian-born, Cuban ancestry, ineligible for POTUS)
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To: InterceptPoint

Straw man argument. China would be the target not Apple.


10 posted on 04/11/2016 5:25:28 PM PDT by ironman
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To: Talisker

Oh, like the sugar tariffs and import restrictions that only help a few wealthy families while sending candy manufacturing to Canada? Gotta love all those unemployed in PA and NY.

Want to add a 45% tariff on foreign cars? Sure, wipe out our car companies from selling in those countries. And kiss the jobs in Smyrna, TN (they make Nissans); Tuscaloosa, AL (they make Mercedes); Chattanooga, TN (Volkswagon) and SC where they make BMW’s.

Don’t those countries want “their jobs back”???


11 posted on 04/11/2016 5:25:42 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I just don't trust Trump.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those “Taxes” will have to be structured so that the companies, not the consumers actually pay them not an easy feat to accomplish.


12 posted on 04/11/2016 5:27:26 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Had a few of the local Rochester brains on...they had no problem with the tariff...saying.....if that’s what levels the playing field...


14 posted on 04/11/2016 5:33:26 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ironman
Straw man argument. China would be the target not Apple.
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Read the article again. Here is the first sentence.

Donald Trump played up his plans to tax companies that move jobs out of the United States as he tried to appeal to blue collar workers in a New York rally Sunday

15 posted on 04/11/2016 5:40:45 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

>>You know who else loves free trade? That German guy from the 1800s who gave birth to the wretched political system that bears his last name and is the same as Groucho.<<

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Of course. The first globalist.

“Free Trade” is part of the formula for giantism, along with fiat money that becomes a weapon of mass destruction in government crony hands against local, entrepreneurial businesses. Marx and Lenin loved the idea of giant organizations because they could be more easily controlled by government bureaucrats and eventually taken over.


16 posted on 04/11/2016 5:41:15 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tariffs boil down to nothing more than taxes on imported consumer goods. Consumers, (that’s us) always end up paying every penny of the tarrifs through higher prices. Why doesn’t Trump seem to know this?


17 posted on 04/11/2016 5:43:53 PM PDT by Bullish (Face it, insanity is just not presidential.)
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To: Fledermaus

No, not like those examples. Rather as a single component of an overall trade strategy.

A very, very important component.

Should cops be disarmed because some cops misuse their weapons? Same thing. If tariffs send candy manufacturing to Canada, then deny Canada import profits where it hurts them, cut them off on other trade deals if they take advantage of our vulnerabilities, deny them favoured trading partner status, etc. Cut off easy travel to the country, direct American tourists elsewhere. In other words, fight back systematically. Single examples of trade idiocy don’t validate a concept.

And why should any country be allowed to sell in America that doesn’t pay the same wages and follow the same regulations we do here? And why should our wages and regulations be so ridiculous that we can’t compete on the world stage? Why are countries that use virtual slave labor allowed to compete with us at all? Why are our corporations allowed to use foreign slave labor? To compete with what? The drive towards the global bottom? That’s what you see now - a false business reality created by bureaucrats and CEOs selling out to placate tyranny in other countries. This isn’t economic “reality,” it’s CREATED economics, IMPOSED economics, to achieve global totalitarian POLITICAL GOALS.

Wake up!


18 posted on 04/11/2016 5:45:29 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Fledermaus

It is the threat of tarriffs from a serious President who understands trade and is not bound by special interests and lobbyists to actually implement them that will do the trick. A form of “jawboning” backed up with political will and tough but fair negotiation.


19 posted on 04/11/2016 5:47:19 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: InterceptPoint
I presume Apple would be high on Trumps Target List. His deal for Apple: Fire those 500,000 Chinese and bring your manufacturing back to the U.S. or I will tax all your iPhones and iPads. Or something like that. Is that really a good idea? Do we really the U.S. Government making these kind of business decisions? I don’t think so.

Of course we do! We're AT WAR ALREADY with China. Trade, manufacturing, buying property in the US, commercial/military intelligence operations, technology theft, subversion, currency, PC psy ops, media control... my God, what's not to see?! And Apple isn't a "business," it's a multinational corporation larger than many countries. They ARE a US asset in this cold war with China. So the question is whether they accept that status as a US company or not. Your precious Apple, BTW, hacks the crap out of their products when China demands it, but not when the FBI wants it. Control Apple? We'd better!

Sheesh!

20 posted on 04/11/2016 5:55:36 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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