Posted on 09/19/2015 9:31:46 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
A new poll of Arizona Republican voters shows former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina as the big winner in this week's presidential debate on CNN.
Summit Consulting Group surveyed 996 likely GOP voters on who they thought won the three-hour debate this week.
Forty-six percent picked Fiorina, who touts her business background, as the winner. U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida was second at 18.2 percent followed by GOP frontrunner Donald Trump with 16 percent.
Several online, unscientific post-debate polls were dominated by Trump supporters.
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Outlier poll! Don't trust them! Too early to trust the polls! (But not too early if the poll is good for The Donald, so say Trump maniacs).
IOW, I only trust polls that are good for The Donald!!! That is the Trump Maniac way, don't cha know?
Gravis Marketing poll (yesterday) for uber-conservative OAN (where Trump was interviewed by Sarah Palin) showing Fiorina and Trump tied nationally is despised now, but a past poll from them was liked by Trump supporters when it was good news for The Donald.
And the Voter Gravity poll (well over 2,000 respondents) is a yuge poll, but is a somewhat unknown poll and not to be trusted because RCP doesn't accept them --- BUT other polls that RCP does not accept are accepted here at FR by Trump supporters - if and only if it has good news for Trump, though.
See how it works?
Must be a group of McCainiac voters.
The same jerk who keep electing Juan McCain? Not impressed.
I hate to say it but if many Arizonans love McCain, they would vote for the RINO Fiorina, too.
Watch out!
The Media Establishment (or Rove? LOL) has their mind-control machine at work on these Republican respondents to this poll and has them under their/his control! LOL.
This is the narrative the media wanted! Even Republicans aren’t immune!
Get your tin-foil hat on - now.
LOLOLOLOL.
It’s the heat. Everyone I’ve spoken to doesn’t know who she is.
I personally cant stand Carly.
It makes no sense that a former Carson supporter would go to Carly. They have almost nothing in common. I dont expect these mouth breathers to stay with Carly the loser liberal failure for long.
I’m one of those jerks and I’m not impressed either. You can’t fix stupid.
During the Friday, 9/18/15 edition of FNN’s “The Five”, the hosts were posed questions from viewers. Each was asked two questions. One question was “Who would you most like to interview?” The other was “Whose political campaign would you like to run?”
Kimberly’s G’s response to the first was “Winston Churchill. I just love Churchill.” To the second, her reply was “Carly Firorina” after which she mumbled something like “Yea Carly.”
Kimberly is a very bright gal, but I suspect she is missing some vital information relative to her two selections as they each clearly hold very, very different views on THE most important topic that has faced the West for over 1200 years.
Allow me to contrast them for you:
First Churchill’s words from his “The River War”when it was first published as a two-volume set in 1899. Unfortunately, THIS selection was removed when the book was condensed into one volume and republished in 1902. I can’t but wonder if a Muslim was involved in the later “edit” (aka “sanitizing”.)
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
Contrast THAT with this from Ms. Fiorina in a speech she delivered in September, 2001, less than 2 weeks after 9/11.
There was once a civilization that was the greatest in the world.
It was able to create a continental super-state that stretched from ocean to ocean, and from northern climes to tropics and deserts. Within its dominion lived hundreds of millions of people, of different creeds and ethnic origins.
One of its languages became the universal language of much of the world, the bridge between the peoples of a hundred lands. Its armies were made up of people of many nationalities, and its military protection allowed a degree of peace and prosperity that had never been known. The reach of this civilization’s commerce extended from Latin America to China, and everywhere in between.
And this civilization was driven more than anything, by invention. Its architects designed buildings that defied gravity. Its mathematicians created the algebra and algorithms that would enable the building of computers, and the creation of encryption. Its doctors examined the human body, and found new cures for disease. Its astronomers looked into the heavens, named the stars, and paved the way for space travel and exploration.
Its writers created thousands of stories. Stories of courage, romance and magic. Its poets wrote of love, when others before them were too steeped in fear to think of such things.
When other nations were afraid of ideas, this civilization thrived on them, and kept them alive. When censors threatened to wipe out knowledge from past civilizations, this civilization kept the knowledge alive, and passed it on to others.
While modern Western civilization shares many of these traits, the civilization I’m talking about was the Islamic world from the year 800 to 1600, which included the Ottoman Empire and the courts of Baghdad, Damascus and Cairo, and enlightened rulers like Suleiman the Magnificent.
Although we are often unaware of our indebtedness to this other civilization, its gifts are very much a part of our heritage. The technology industry would not exist without the contributions of Arab mathematicians. Sufi poet-philosophers like Rumi challenged our notions of self and truth. Leaders like Suleiman contributed to our notions of tolerance and civic leadership.
In light of the HORRORS still being perpetrated by Islam upon non Muslims beginning in the period she cites as the peak of Muslim culture, I would very much like to hear Ms. Fiorina renounce many of the points she made in that 2001 address. It was Muslims during the early part of those 800 years that brought the Christian Crusaders out of Western Europe to protect and avenge the thousands of Christian Pilgrims robbed, raped and murdered by Islam while simply attempting to visit Jerusalem and the Holy Land.
A distinctly politically INcorrect fact chucked down the old Memory Hole is that, among a few other causes, the hijacking of American ships and cargo, slaughter of captives and holding others for ransom by the Barbary Coast Pirates during the Jefferson Administration between 1801-1805 led to the expansion of our navy and the formation of the U.S. Marine Corps, whose members traveled aboard those ships for security. They are still called “Leathernecks” for the protective collars they wore to ward off the scimitars of these vicious Muslim bandits during their frequent battles. And the line in the Marine Hymn “...the shores of Tripoli” is a direct reference to those savage encounters.
In 1904, a resident of Trenton, NJ, Ion Perdicaris,was taken captive by the leader of a later band of Muslim marauders. Their leader, Raisuli, demanded a ransom of $70,000. President Theodore Roosevelt refused to pay and uttered his now famous “Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!” Backing up his demand with a flotilla of U.S. battleships, Perdicaris was released unharmed.
(Rhetorical Question: Where is OUR Teddy Roosevelt?)
And, of course, we all know what the Muslims have been up to since.
Little has changed and Dr. Bill Warner explains WHY in this excellent video.
If you genuinely want to understand the TRUE, VIOLENT, DUALISTIC, SCHIZOPHRENIC nature of ISLAM in order to become part of a solution instead of part of the problem that spells doom for Western Civilization (and, NO, that’s not too extreme a statement), you need to spend 40 minutes with Dr. Bill Warner here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk
(Don’t be concerned when Dr. Warner mentions that he “sells” books. Though I suggest you sample the info in the first 5 minutes if only to get a sense of how thorough his research has been, if short on time, slide out past the 5 minute mark for the red meat beyond. THAT’S where the really important stuff is.)
Dick Bachert
9/19/2015
You wouldn’t be being fed these polls by any special interest group would you? I mean like the RNC, or GOPe types...?
Fiorina can hardly fill a card table.
Carson isn’t drawing big crowds.
Look at the Drudge poll after the debate. Where did Carson and Fiorina place?
This stuff you’re posting on the forum makes no sense. It just doesn’t reflect reality.
Even the polls from the Leftist media don’t show the idiotic results these polls do.
This is nothing but pure propaganda.
Carly has so many more EEOC/affirmative-action bureaucratic ladder-climbing accomplishments than Trump. She is obviously the most qualified bureauacrat.
One can agree that a certain person won the debate on points but not agree with anything that person says. Also if Carly won this week doesnt necessarily mean the people who voted her the winner have picked her as their candidate.
Al Gore was proclaimed the winner of all 3 debates with W. And on debate points that was true.
Good to see you parroting your candidate’s numbers during her 15 minutes of being relevant.
Once her amnesty views are widely known she is toast.
Oh Lord -not your sh** again.
Carly? She’s not a true conservative. Figures you’d support her.
I don’t see how Carly won the debate. This is a lot of spin. She did well. Many other did well (some who I would support, and some who I am not in favor of). I think Huck does exceedingly well in debates, for example. Even Kasich and Bush had their moments. Carly is an extremely disciplined communicator which is a trait I value strongly. I suppose that stands out in this format. In terms of strong messaging Cruz and Carly are probably most on point every time.
The power elite are just trying to work either Carson or Carly into the Trump killer. Neither will succeed unless Trump really stumbles. Neither will be able to withstand the outright destruction of the party poo-bahs if they did topple Trump. They would be destroyed in days to make the way for Jeb.
Push Fiorina! The new left biased media.
Just a while ago they were pushing Carson. The CBS/NY Times poll had Carson within statistical error of Trump, completely out of line with other polls.
I look at the averages. I did not bookmark the site. Anyone know it?
This poll is not
“ who would you vote for “
This poll is
“ who do you think won the debate “
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