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Do atoms understand language?
Jon Rappoport's Blog ^ | February 18, 2015 | Jon Rappoport

Posted on 02/19/2015 2:23:41 PM PST by Reverend Saltine

Do atoms understand language?

Are you your brain and nothing else?

If so, mind-control programming is quite reasonable

by Jon Rappoport

February 19, 2015

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“The idea that somewhere in all the stacked-up universes, there might be a little corner that isn’t made out of matter or energy, but is truly independent of, and different from, sub-atomic particles… this idea confounds people, as if it might mean the end of all existence. It might mean a return to the old myths and fairy tales of the horrific priest-classes. It might mean everything science knows will vanish in a puff of smoke. But what if it doesn’t mean any of these things? What if it means that brutal power and domination could die out? What if it means there is an adventure waiting for all of us, beyond any and all pictures of conventional reality?” (The Underground, Jon Rappoport)

Do atoms understand language?

Why ask such a question?

Because it goes to the heart of the slow-motion car crash that conventional physics has been experiencing for the past hundred years.

The question also puts philosophic materialism into a massive dither, from which it can’t hope to recover.

Conventional physics asserts that the universe is made entirely of particles. Atoms. Quarks, wavicles.

The universe includes the human brain.

Here is a sentence: “The Roman Empire collapsed, ushering in a Dark Age, a time of unprecedented chaos.”

Forget the truth or falsity of that sentence. It’s not at issue. What is at issue is the meaning of the sentence. You’re reading it now.

Do you understand it? Do you understand its meaning?

Of course you do. So do I.

But you see, your brain is made of particles that physicists would say have no comprehension of language. None. Zero.

These particles make up rocks, chairs, toothbrushes, asteroids, suns, brains. The same particles.

They have no understanding of sentences or paragraphs or books. No understanding of meaning, as expressed in language.

So?

Understanding of language must come from somewhere else. How can it come from the brain, if the brain is entirely composed of atoms?

“Hello, atom. It rained yesterday, but today it’s supposed to be sunny, and the temperature will reach 70. Do you understand what I’m saying?”

No answer.

“Hello, atom. I find the metaphysics of Kant impenetrable. How about you?”

No answer.

Of course, physicists will dodge and tap dance and offer diverting explanations: “We’re just beginning to understand the mysteries of the brain…we’re making enormous strides…” And this one, my favorite:

“Humans are conscious and understand meaning and language, we know that. And the only place this understanding could possibly come from is the brain. Therefore, the brain is conscious…”

That’s called circular reasoning, which means you assume what you’re claiming to prove. It’s one of the first fallacies a student learns about, when he’s studying logic (if anyone studies logic anymore).

Some “experts” will make this assertion: “There is no such thing as consciousness or understanding. They’re delusions. So it’s quite all right for the brain to be composed of non-conscious atoms…”

In other words, you and I, sharing the words and sentences of this article, are completely deluded into “thinking” that we understand them. We don’t. We’re just machines made of atoms.

If you buy that argument, I’m looking for investors in my new Thorazine-cookie company.

No, I’m afraid the conscious understanding of language is quite real; and that understanding, that knowing, right here and right now, isn’t emanating from the brain, couldn’t be emanating from the brain.

Where it does come from…well, all sorts of opinions can be offered. But one thing is clear. If the whole universe is composed of atoms, and if atoms have no conscious understanding, then consciousness and understanding come from someplace else. A non-atom place.

For example…

From you.

And by you, I mean a non-material being.

Unmeasurable. Unanalyzable.

No big deal. Just the difference between a squashed collapsed view of existence and an infinite view…

Here is a statement attributed to Albert Szent-Gyorgyi, 1937 Nobel Laureate in Physiology and Medicine:

“In my search for the secret of life, I ended up with atoms and electrons which have no life at all. Somewhere along the line, life has run out through my fingers. So, in my old age, I am now retracing my steps…”

How many other scientists would admit they, too, have come to the same crossroad? The deeper they probe, the farther they find themselves from what life is?

How many of them would say, “For the past fifty years, I’ve been quite sure everything is made out of something. Know what I mean? Everything is made out of atoms and electrons and quarks and so on. But those little particles don’t understand anything. They just move through space. Something non-material must possess the quality of being able to understand meaning. And that upsets all applecarts…”

How many scientists would say that?

Again…why does any of this matter? Well, here’s one reason. There is an enormous amount of mind-control brain research occurring all over the world. This research is based on the premise that, when it comes to humans, there is no one home. There is just the brain, and the functions of the brain can be manipulated and carved up and reduced, in order to make “the human machine function normally.”

No problem. No conscience. No guilt. It’s just tinkering with the apparatus.

Welcome to the century of the brain. Welcome to philosophic materialism taken to its obvious conclusion.

Welcome to official insanity.

Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at NoMoreFakeNews.com or OutsideTheRealityMachine.


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21 posted on 02/19/2015 3:33:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: John Valentine

As you say, processes take place in cells. And consciousness is a process and an aggregate of many processes.

Does consciousness take place?


22 posted on 02/19/2015 3:33:27 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: John Valentine; Inyo-Mono
The whole article is juvenile sophistry.

Everyone's gotta start somewhere.

If it were, then anesthesia would be impossible and consciousness would survive death, but not decay.

You bring up an interesting point that begs the question;
Why does anesthesia affect the conscious and not the subconscious ?

We could go even further. How can a hypnotist put your 'conscious' to 'sleep' with a snap of the fingers ....and.... how is it that your 'mind' can still then communicate and perform physical tasks ?

Consciousness is itself a process - and is an aggregation of thousands of processes, many of which take place in physical living cells and organs, but consciousness is not in any way physical or material.

Each cell in the body is intelligent, ergo it seems logical that the 'mind' is, at a minimum, an aggregate consensus of all the cells.

23 posted on 02/19/2015 3:34:54 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Excellence
Can you imagine a mathematical expression so sophisticated that it’s actually sentient?

No.

Well, I'm going with the particle concept until proven otherwise, and unless particles can store, manipulate, and retrieve "information", ya run one through, say, a Turing Machine, you can pretty much expect the same result for the same class of particle.

24 posted on 02/19/2015 3:41:18 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: SunkenCiv
Ahh Bach !!!

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25 posted on 02/19/2015 3:45:17 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: BikerTrash

(Donning white jumpsuit)
I’m caught in a trap
I can’t walk out....


26 posted on 02/19/2015 3:48:17 PM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Reverend Saltine
The author wrote a witty and humorous piece, while the topic is really interesting for some and important for many.

Physicists Calculate Number of Parallel Universes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2365019/posts

String Theory 'blog
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1686282/posts

Parallel Universes Exist - Study
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1901596/posts

Freaky Physics Proves Parallel Universes Exist
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2487768/posts

The Rise of the Anti-Universe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2276665/posts

All is physical. We're simply not yet ready to know much about the various physics of worlds.


27 posted on 02/19/2015 3:50:15 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Reverend Saltine

When a living creature on earth truly rests, consciousness only temporarily shuts down on one end.


28 posted on 02/19/2015 3:54:32 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

All is physical. We’re simply not yet ready to know much about the various physics of worlds.


All physical?

Why is there the need to introduce concepts that can not be proven by “physical” methods ?


29 posted on 02/19/2015 3:55:39 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: UCANSEE2
Consciousness is itself a process - and is an aggregation of thousands of processes, many of which take place in physical living cells and organs, but consciousness is not in any way physical or material.

I think consciousness is just our memories being continuously processed and added to by our evolved biological computer (the brain).

Thinking, so to speak.

30 posted on 02/19/2015 3:57:05 PM PST by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: Reverend Saltine

Well, sorry to dig this hole even deeper, but if the cells in your brain wear out and are replaced, then how can we remember anything that happened over five years ago? Democrats can’t remember what happened beyond last weekend.


31 posted on 02/19/2015 3:57:41 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Excellence
Well, it's just that this Pi feller's problem has no depth, but his solution goes on an on an on...
32 posted on 02/19/2015 4:01:28 PM PST by BikerTrash
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To: Zeneta
"Why is there the need to introduce concepts that can not be proven by “physical” methods ?"

Material interactions in this universe can be proven in some ways related to our senses and with math. The existence of other universes can be proven despite lacks of means to prove material interactions in those universes. Information behind some of the links in a previous comment offer much better explanations. I'm not a physicist, but I enjoy reading their attempts to explain to us. ;-)


33 posted on 02/19/2015 4:04:52 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: central_va
Chemicals, always chemicals. Sheesh

Creation is far more complex than science yet has imagines. God started it all with dimension space and dimension time. Ever heard of the Yin and Yang? There is a process not hidden from plain view which God has used and is continuing to use to Create. When Jesus said 'I go to prepare a place for you', He meant just that. Creation is an ongoing process. There is a realm no further away from you than the length of your arm, that is real, has spacetime coordinates, yet you cannot even sense it. Consult the fifth chapter of Daniel for the story. ... And leave off the chemicals.

34 posted on 02/19/2015 4:06:04 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Reverend Saltine
Do atoms understand language?

Whoa, me and my homies were discussing that very topic last Friday night in the bar while watching the hockey game............Hmmmmmm

35 posted on 02/19/2015 4:08:33 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Uncle Sy: "Beavers are like Ninjas, they only come out at night and they're hard to find")
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To: blueunicorn6
:*) Brilliant!
36 posted on 02/19/2015 4:11:04 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: reasonisfaith
Does consciousness take place?

Yes, but only in your mind.

37 posted on 02/19/2015 4:15:22 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: central_va
Here's a little more, if you're interested.
38 posted on 02/19/2015 4:57:55 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


39 posted on 02/19/2015 5:08:46 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Reverend Saltine
Two atoms are walking down the street one day, and one of them says to the other: "Hey, wait up a second. I think I lost an electron" The first atom replied, "Are you sure?" The second atom exclaimed, "Yes, I'm positive!"

A proton, neutron, and electron went out to dinner one night. After a luxurious meal, the waiter brought the check to the proton and the electron. The neutron was perplexed as to why the waiter didn't bring him his check. So, he summoned the waiter to the table and asked him about it. The waiter explained to the neutron, "For you, there's no charge!"

40 posted on 02/19/2015 5:09:24 PM PST by Redcitizen
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