http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html
that’s what I have been saying all along...
Heya TSR -
Ping the list? This is probably the best argument (i.e. real proof) I have seen that disproves greenhouse gas effects.
Thanks!
AR
Globull warming doesn’t require science or math or proof. It only requires righteous faith and belief that man is killing the planet.
Well, Wikipedia says, “Despite the harsh conditions on the surface, the atmospheric pressure and temperature at about 50 km to 65 km above the surface of the planet is nearly the same as that of the Earth ...”, so that’s food for thought.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html
fascinating.
Why do we have to go to Venus to affirm what is happening here on Earth? The argument makes sense, but here are the flaws. How was the CO2 concentration measured on a planet so far away? The argument makes sense but is unnecessary. What about all the other “facts” quoted about the planet? We have all we need here on Earth to debunk all the crap about carbon dioxide. This is not about truth; this is about political correctness, about a loss of freedom and about control. Enough already.
The pressure on Venus is tremendously different than the pressure on the surface of the Earth.
One of the first space probes, sent by the Russians, was crushed like a beer can underneath the foot of THE HULK when it landed on Venus.
Water vapor is THE most prevalent greenhouse gas by a fantastically huge margin!!!
P.S. And there's plenty of it!!!
I love thermodynamics....this was an actual problem we had to solve in one of my classes (back in the dark ages when slide rules were our trusty side kicks).
And hence AGW is false like all other EPA ‘science’
By the by, this article did a very nice job explaining the thermal impact of the sun
Using the guy’s own data from the excerpt puts the lie to his entire premise.
15*C is less than 25% of 66*C
288*C is 85% of 336*C
He claims 17.6% is the same as 15%.
Fraud and charlatan. No better than the liars promoting CAGW/climate change. “Close enough” isn’t.
the use of the Stefan-Boltzman relation (from article) to theoretically and apparently closely verify this result is stunning.
what’s more, not many people realize that only 0.004% of our atmosphere is comprised of CO2- that’s it- the rest of the atmosphere is completely CO2 free- I have yet to hear ANY ‘scientist’ explain how just 0.004% of our atmosphere can be causing warming on a global scale? The ‘man-caused global warming’ LIARS make it seem like there is this thick blanket of CO2 completely surrounding our world- enveloping our planet, and making it impossible for heat to get through to escape- thus causing warming, but the TRUTH is that only 0.004% of the atmosphere is CO2- and likely that CO2 is scattered in very tiny insignificant pockets around the world- meaning the vast majority of our atmosphere has NO heat trapping CO2 in it- the claim that CO2 in our atmosphere is causing global warming is akin to making the equally ridiculous claim that a single clam pissing in the ocean is causing the sea to rise and causing global flooding.
I’ve written to every GOP senator asking them to please explain to me how it is physically possible for CO2 which comprises just 0.004% of our atmosphere to cause the whole globe to warm, and how they can sit by and say NOTHING while we stand o n the verge of literally being charged trillions of dollars for this lie? Noone has answered back except for Ted Cruz’s office which basically said they are for a ‘responsible climate change laws’ apparently agreeing with the liars that man is causing climate change- Here is the response from Cruz’s office:
“Many proposed legislative and regulatory remedies for climate change are draconian and would undermine job creation, raise electric rates and gasoline prices, and make American manufacturing less competitive. Ironically, they do little to reduce global production of greenhouse gases. I am committed to responsible environmental stewardship, but I cannot support measures that undermine our individual and economic freedoms by placing more control of our economy in the hands of unelected bureaucrats.”
In other words, even Cruz’s office is ignoring the fact that CO2 takes up only 0.004% of our atmosphere, and he apparently believes that we are infact causing warming and that ‘something needs to be done about it’
so far his office is the only one to respond=- NO other GOP senator and governor has responded yet which I can only take to mean either they didn’t read the email OR they are too spineless to stand up against the tide of disinformation being spewed by the left and confront them with the TRUTH to stop this colossal lie that is about to cripple us financially-
They are rich- and draconian fines and taxes mean practically nothing to them- most people are not rich and are suffering tremendously already because of rising prices being brought on by heavy handed environmental regulations making businesses raise their prices to combat the government fines and taxes and regulations
CO2 is a minute part of our atmosphere and if molecular fluctuations in CO2 were capable of upsetting global climate life on this planet would have ended eons ago. If the CO2 theory were true, a single large volcanic eruption would alter the climate to the point of creating Venus like conditions.
Put CO2 in a glass bottle and O2 in another, and there will be zero temperature difference in each
Physicist Howard Hayden's one-letter disproof of global warming claims [pre-Climategate]Dear Administrator Jackson:
I write in regard to the Proposed Endangerment and Cause or Contribute Findings for Greenhouse Gases Under Section 202(a) of the Clean Air Act, Proposed Rule, 74 Fed. Reg. 18,886 (Apr. 24, 2009), the so-called "Endangerment Finding."
It has been often said that the "science is settled" on the issue of CO2 and climate. Let me put this claim to rest with a simple one-letter proof that it is false.
The letter is s, the one that changes model into models. If the science were settled, there would be precisely one model, and it would be in agreement with measurements.
Alternatively, one may ask which one of the twenty-some models settled the science so that all the rest could be discarded along with the research funds that have kept those models alive.
We can take this further. Not a single climate model predicted the current cooling phase. If the science were settled, the model (singular) would have predicted it.
(excerpted from Professor Hayden's letter to Lisa P. Jackson, Administrator Environmental Protection Agency. More at link.)
CO2 goes down very rapidly in Jun-Jul-Aug, which would correlate with the peak growing season in the Northern Hemisphere.
Anyone know why that happens?
More land mass in the N.H.?
More plant life in the N.H.?
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This article is just bad. The atmospheres of Earth and Venus are not even remotely similar. Venus has no water and the primary greenhouse gas is water vapor. His heart is in the right place but he doesn’t know what the heck he’s talking about. Leave this argument on the floor.