Posted on 11/26/2014 7:58:30 PM PST by America_Right
Hi fellow Freepers,
I have been away since the last general election, but since we cleaned up in this midterm, I have been getting back into the news and politics a little more.
Anyway, I was reading a globull warming article's comments on some website, and one of the comments was from a physicist named Harry Dale Huffman. He used an equation to show that there is almost NO difference between Earth and Venus when it comes to atmospheric temperature, even though Venus has an atmosphere composed almost entirely of CO2.
With indisputable math, he is able to show absolute proof that there is NO WAY CO2 emissions can be causing any kind of atmospheric temperature changes.
Enjoy! Follow the link to the article, and you can go from there to Harry's blog - the comments are awesome. More than a few Warmists had their eyes opened by this.
Earths temperature at the surface is 288 Kelvin. (15 C). The atmospheric pressure at the surface of the Earth is 1000 millibars. The temperature of Venus at 1000 millibars is 339 Kelvin (66 C) Using only the distance from the sun, we can determine that Venus should be about 17.6% hotter than Earth in degrees Kelvin. (explanation below) BIG NEWS: Venus’s temperature at 1000 millibars is almost exactly the same as Earth’s … based solely on the distance from the sun. (differing only by about 0.5%.) The temperature comparisons continued to hold true all the way from 1000 millibars through 200 millibars, varying by a maximum of 5% and by less than 1% in most cases.
(Excerpt) Read more at newandamazing.shadowsofadistantmoon.com ...
Yup! He talks about how the whole greenhouse gas theory violates at least one of the laws of thermodynamics. He said in order for it to be true, it would have to be a magical perpetual motion machine. :)
No, the author is spot on.
You have to do the comparison in absolute temperature (Kelvin), and not relative temperature (degree C).
If you want, I can send you some additional links to explain.
what’s more, not many people realize that only 0.004% of our atmosphere is comprised of CO2- that’s it- the rest of the atmosphere is completely CO2 free- I have yet to hear ANY ‘scientist’ explain how just 0.004% of our atmosphere can be causing warming on a global scale? The ‘man-caused global warming’ LIARS make it seem like there is this thick blanket of CO2 completely surrounding our world- enveloping our planet, and making it impossible for heat to get through to escape- thus causing warming, but the TRUTH is that only 0.004% of the atmosphere is CO2- and likely that CO2 is scattered in very tiny insignificant pockets around the world- meaning the vast majority of our atmosphere has NO heat trapping CO2 in it- the claim that CO2 in our atmosphere is causing global warming is akin to making the equally ridiculous claim that a single clam pissing in the ocean is causing the sea to rise and causing global flooding.
I’ve written to every GOP senator asking them to please explain to me how it is physically possible for CO2 which comprises just 0.004% of our atmosphere to cause the whole globe to warm, and how they can sit by and say NOTHING while we stand o n the verge of literally being charged trillions of dollars for this lie? Noone has answered back except for Ted Cruz’s office which basically said they are for a ‘responsible climate change laws’ apparently agreeing with the liars that man is causing climate change- Here is the response from Cruz’s office:
“Many proposed legislative and regulatory remedies for climate change are draconian and would undermine job creation, raise electric rates and gasoline prices, and make American manufacturing less competitive. Ironically, they do little to reduce global production of greenhouse gases. I am committed to responsible environmental stewardship, but I cannot support measures that undermine our individual and economic freedoms by placing more control of our economy in the hands of unelected bureaucrats.”
In other words, even Cruz’s office is ignoring the fact that CO2 takes up only 0.004% of our atmosphere, and he apparently believes that we are infact causing warming and that ‘something needs to be done about it’
so far his office is the only one to respond=- NO other GOP senator and governor has responded yet which I can only take to mean either they didn’t read the email OR they are too spineless to stand up against the tide of disinformation being spewed by the left and confront them with the TRUTH to stop this colossal lie that is about to cripple us financially-
They are rich- and draconian fines and taxes mean practically nothing to them- most people are not rich and are suffering tremendously already because of rising prices being brought on by heavy handed environmental regulations making businesses raise their prices to combat the government fines and taxes and regulations
CO2 is a minute part of our atmosphere and if molecular fluctuations in CO2 were capable of upsetting global climate life on this planet would have ended eons ago. If the CO2 theory were true, a single large volcanic eruption would alter the climate to the point of creating Venus like conditions.
With proof like this that is being ignored by the "consensus" (for good reason), the people will do just that if they ever get to see and understand it.
Great post, by the way. Thanks!
Right! I’m talkin about Earth!! I don’t give two flyin (BLEEPS) about Venus cause I’m never goin there... EVER!!! (grin)
Their whole premise is just based on lies, suppositions, and bad computer models that show whatever they want them to show.
precisely
or as my prof said the best way to understand the fundamental laws of thermodynamics is as follows:
1)You can’t win
2) You can’t tie
3) Not only will you lose, the game is rigged
I forgot to mention- The TOTAL ATMMOSPHERIC CO2 level is just 0.004% but MAN’S contribution to that piddly 0.004% is just 3.4% of that amount- so man’s contribution of CO2 is just 3.4% of 0.004%- that is practically nothing- hardly even measurable really- CO2 isn’t even a 1/2 a percentage point- it’s nothing- how on earth can it be causing a blanket that stretches across the globe that is so thick that it traps and reflects heat back toward the earth? It can’t- period- impossible-
It would be like claiming that your body temperature will rise to dangerous levels simply by placing a piece of cloth on your naked body that is about a 1/2 inch in diameter- perhaps even less (not sure how big the cloth would be if it was just 0.004% the size of a typical body)
I am simply stunned that our government has allowed this collosal lie of ‘man caused global warming’ to take shape and now become the ‘new truth’ and NOONE took a serious stand against it
I even wrote to Senator INhoffe- the one person I thought was leading the fight against the claims of climate change caused by man- but still no answer from his office either- not that I expect any- but it seems to me that no one is really very serious about combatting the lie- IF they were, they would be in the news constantly hammering home the FACT that man can not possibly be causing climate change because there simply is nowhere near enough CO2 in the atmosphere to do ANYTHING regarding changing the climate-
Very maddening watching the world be plunged into this lie and knowing that no one is going to take a serious stand against it!
First, good. Don't ever go there. It is literally hell.
Second, I LOVE VENUS!!! Thanks to her, we are able to mathematically and incontrovertibly disprove any possible impact CO2 can have on our climate. Gotta give her props for that!
That cracked me up right there! :)
Very maddening watching the world be plunged into this lie and knowing that no one is going to take a serious stand against it!
I feel your pain (VOBC). Most of these RINOS are globalist power hungry bass turds. They are not going to fight it. As I said before, it will take the voice of the entire country yelling at them to stop, or it never will...
Hardly seems necessary to "prove" something on Venus when ya have ta be oblivious to the obvious by lookin at obvious things like what makes up the vast majority of green house gases right here on this God created planet extrodinaire!!! I'm just sayin...
I agree that it shouldn't be necessary to use Venus as proof, but we can, so we should. This method is air-frickin'-tight. They can't argue it without sounding stupid. 1+1=2, and that's that. Well, unless you are doing Common Core math, then 1+1=whatever you feel it should equal.
Put CO2 in a glass bottle and O2 in another, and there will be zero temperature difference in each
Physicist Howard Hayden's one-letter disproof of global warming claims [pre-Climategate]Dear Administrator Jackson:
I write in regard to the Proposed Endangerment and Cause or Contribute Findings for Greenhouse Gases Under Section 202(a) of the Clean Air Act, Proposed Rule, 74 Fed. Reg. 18,886 (Apr. 24, 2009), the so-called "Endangerment Finding."
It has been often said that the "science is settled" on the issue of CO2 and climate. Let me put this claim to rest with a simple one-letter proof that it is false.
The letter is s, the one that changes model into models. If the science were settled, there would be precisely one model, and it would be in agreement with measurements.
Alternatively, one may ask which one of the twenty-some models settled the science so that all the rest could be discarded along with the research funds that have kept those models alive.
We can take this further. Not a single climate model predicted the current cooling phase. If the science were settled, the model (singular) would have predicted it.
(excerpted from Professor Hayden's letter to Lisa P. Jackson, Administrator Environmental Protection Agency. More at link.)
I think these measurements are biased by city traffic, asphalt, glass and concrete temperature rises in sparse locations
Saying science is settled is like imposing Newton’s law in an age of Relativity.
You're off by a factor of 10.
Current atmospheric CO2 concentration is 397 parts per million, which rounds to 0.04%.
Still a very small concentration, but there's no reason not to be accurate.
Whoops!
You are off by one decimal point, Bob.
Co2 is 0.04% of our atmosphere.
It's 400 parts per million.
I agree, that is still a very tiny amount, but the Global Warming crowd will laugh you off the stage if you make an error like that.
The spread of "right to carry" laws within the States comes to mind.
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