Posted on 05/13/2014 5:52:30 AM PDT by JOHN W K
SEE: Did Michigan just trigger 'constitutional convention'? Bid gains steam
In the wake of the vote, California Republican Rep. Duncan Hunter pressed House Speaker John Boehner on Tuesday to determine whether the states just crossed the threshold for this kind of convention. Like Michigan lawmakers, Hunter's interest in the matter stems from a desire to push a balanced-budget amendment -- something that could potentially be done at a constitutional convention.
If Duncan Hunter wants to balance the annual budget, then why does he not “push” for and demand the apportioned direct tax which is in our Constitution be used to extinguish annual deficits as our Founding Fathers intended?
The liars are at it again, pretending their objectives are noble, but their ultimate aim is to convene a convention so those who now hold power at the federal and state level may rewrite our Constitution and make constitutional that which is now unconstitutional.
How is the budget to be balanced? The answer is found in a number of our State Ratification documents which gave birth to our Constitution, for example see: Ratification of the Constitution by the State of New Hampshire
Fourthly That Congress do not lay direct Taxes but when the money arising from Impost, Excise and their other resources are insufficient for the Publick Exigencies; nor then, untill Congress shall have first made a Requisition upon the States, to Assess, Levy, & pay their respective proportions, of such requisitions agreeably to the Census fixed in the said Constitution in such way & manner as the Legislature of the State shall think best and in such Case if any State shall neglect, then Congress may Assess & Levy such States proportion together with the Interest thereon at the rate of six per Cent per Annum from the Time of payment prescribed in such requisition-
For an example of a direct tax being laid by Congress see an Act laying a direct tax for $3 million in which the rule of apportionment is applied and each State’s share is determined.
Did you ever hear Mark Levin inform his listening audience that our founders put the emergency apportioned direct taxing power in the Constitution to be used when imposts, duties, and excise taxes were found insufficient to meet Congress expenditures ? I haven’t. But Mark Levin wants a convention so he can promote his socialist flat tax which he now does with one of his “liberty amendments”.
A flat tax calculated from incomes, even if “flat”, does absolutely nothing to remove the iron fist of our federal government from the necks of America’s hard working productive citizens and business owners.
Hey Mark, does your flat tax end our despotic federal government from arbitrarily deciding what is and what is not taxable income? No! Does your socialist tax on profits gains and other “incomes” end our Washington Establishment’s use of taxation to intentionally seek out America’s productive hard working citizens and transfer the bread they have earned to a dependent voting block who prostitutes their vote for free government cheese? No! Tell us Mark Levin, how about the devastating and slavish manipulations carried out under this socialist tax calculated from incomes? Does your flat tax end that and class warfare? No! Or, would your flat tax end taxation being used as a political weapon to silence, threaten and punish political foes while rewarding the friends of a tyrannical bloated federal government? Heck No! So why are you comfortable with a flat tax which in turn is a component part of a despotic federal government? I know why….you are part of the Washington Establishment which works to defeat the miracle our founding fathers created.
If you were really sincere about supporting our founding fathers Mark, you would be promoting a return to our Constitutions ORIGINAL TAX PLAN as our founders intended it to operate with the following H.J.RESOLUTION:
House/Senate Joint Resolution
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the sixteenth article of amendment and end taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other “incomes”.
Section 1: The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
Section 2: Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.
Section 3: This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by three fourths of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission thereof to the States by the Congress.
JWK
" I believe that there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." ___ Madison Elliot`s Debates, vol. III, page 87
This is amazing. What Levin has proposed is a convention to propose amendments to the constitution and these people are against allowing any debate on proposing amendments?
You haven't read Levin's book have you? If you had, you would know that is one of the key proposals.
/johnny
ITS NOT A CON CON. STOP LYING LIKE A GODDAMN LEFTIST
It’s NOT a “Constitutional Convention” as so many here are conflating it with.
An Article 5 convention of the states does not convene without a specific set of amendments agreed upon beforehand and a restriction that no amendments beyond those will be brought up.
I am so sick of all the people saying it’s a con con. GET EDUCATED!! Isn’t it 1000 per cent better to have a convention of the states than have one maroon of a president with a pen and a phone? He and his administration of dudes and dudettes are destroying our country.
In effect, Supreme Court has been doing that for decades. Do we have Freedom of Association anymore?
These are the problem. This is why I quit the Birch society back in the day. On the surface, they are constitutional, but then one gets into the creature, and it becomes apparent they are as queer as can be.
They are not the whole problem, but are a part of the whole.
What difference does that make? Both parties routinely ignore the Constitution and the Supreme Court justices can’t read plain english. The only thing that will restore our rights is the same thing that gave them.
An amendment can also repeal an existing amendment, the way the 21st Amendment repealed the 18th Amendment (prohibition).
It is strictly constitutional to propose amendments to the constitution. What these bastards are saying is..nobody can propose amendments.
Who the hell made them tyrannical dictators no better than the present occupant of the white house?
Don’t due it. Our country started when the first convention tossed the Articles of Confederation. Given the imbeciles in charge today you would not believe what would come out of a convention; i.e. repeal of the Second Amendment; Free medical care for the world, no white male may hold public office. You get the picture.
They could simply refuse to vote for increasing the debt ceiling and the balance budget amendment
They will never vote against increasing the debt. This has always been voted on from Reagan through today and never voted down. Too many scary nonsense is being said for it ever to happen.
[to the author] You’re utterly and willfully ignorant as to what Levin is calling for and he has explained it so many times it’s monotonous at this point. And every armchair reactionary idiot who hasn’t read Levin’s book has further not checked for him/herself that what Levin is calling for is explicitly called for in the Constitution.
The level of non-thought embodied in this screed isn’t worth responding to. You haven’t educated yourself as to what is being proposed.
Your insistence on returning to apportioned taxes from the States is correct.
The federal government was created to manage the affairs of the States as a whole, and not to subjugate them or their citizens directly.
Since the States created the club, they can pay the dues. And collect them from their own members in a way that they will have to answer for...to their neighbors.
Lot harder to send thieves with guns to take money when you live with the people you’re trying to extort.
I know, I know...”The States didn’t write the Constitution, the People did!”.
Convenient dodge. Then why have apportionment written into the document?
Levin’s call for a Convention is an attempt to circumvent the logjam known as the Congress and the Courts. But it comes with incredible risk.
Perhaps better to repeal the offensive amendments placed there by the “Progressive” movement of the late 19th Century. But how to put the Court back in its place? How to end Regulatory delegation and strip the Bureaucracy of it’s arrogated power?
I don’t think there are easy answers.
I guess you assume everyone has read his book or you'd have added that reiteration yourself, right?
Then, are you for nullification?
I think our boy committed what is called a hit and run.
Wow, the list must have gotten shorter of late. It used to be a couple of months between his turns.
Or maybe he's making inroads into the apathy the democrat fascists count on?
I sure hope it's that he's making inroads in the massive apathy in this country. I can't believe the number of people who have given up and accepted that things will be getting worse year after year.
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