Posted on 02/09/2014 9:26:46 AM PST by Errant
Parenthetical clauses are used throughout scripture to explain how, why, when and where in close proximity to the main subject and verb.
Parentheses in the book of The Revelation explain cause and effect. They tie together the events that happen previously, to the events that transpire subsequently on the prophetic timeline. Unfortunately, parentheses, as a literary devise, come centuries after the actual parenthetical clauses so prevalent in both Hebrew and Greek linguistic constructions. Because of their late arrival into the English language, the parentheticals in the book of The Revelation have never been either deservedly researched or accurately articulated. Now, after more than 40 years in the making, The Chronological Gospels is complete with all of the extensive parenthetical clauses accurately assigned throughout the book of The Revelation.
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But God and Christ sure did. AND they are the source that inspired Hosea to pen that Prophecy. Hosea's prophecy is just as alive and well as the writings of Paul. Paul constantly quoted the holy prophets, just as Christ did. See lazy preachers teach their flocks that the majority of the Bible does not apply to them... And Christ said let no man deceive you.
You guys keep saying that so I finally had to check it out...
BELIEVE-Hebrew
אמן
'âman
aw-man'
A primitive root; properly to build up or support; to foster as a parent or nurse; figuratively to render (or be) firm or faithful, to trust or believe, to be permanent or quiet; morally to be true or certain; once (in Isa_30:21; by interchange for H541) to go to the right hand: - hence assurance, believe, bring up, establish, + fail, be faithful (of long continuance, stedfast, sure, surely, trusty, verified), nurse, (-ing father), (put), trust, turn to the right.
Believe doesn't appear to mean hear or do at all...But since the New Testament was written in Greek, let's see what the Greek says...
Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
πιστεύω
pisteuō
pist-yoo'-o
From G4102; to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), that is, credit; by implication to entrust (especially one’s spiritual well being to Christ): - believe (-r), commit (to trust), put in trust with.
I think we got it right...
Sure...Way to go...
Peace brother! The only bone I have to pick is the uncivil tone, and I personally haven't got that from you - I will try to keep from making friction, as I suppose you will endeavor to do as well.
I believe every word of scripture is true...I believe all of the prophecies are true...
A perfect way to start! Agreed.
I said earlier that the age of the church was not revealed to anyone in the OT including the prophets...Of all those prophecies, none relate to the the time of the church from when the Gospel of the grace of God was revealed to the apostle Paul until the start of the Tribulation (or thereabouts)...
I don't think that is true - I know it is standard fare, but the problem I have with it is that YHWH does nothing but that He shows it to His prophets.
Secondly, no prophecy is a private revelation - What that means is that a continuity, a continuum, needfully exists within the prophets.
As a tertiary point, the word, the narrative, is a counterpoint to the prophets. It necessarily forms a witness between the two, to effect the 'two or more witnesses' required by YHWH inherently within the text itself - I seek no cannon of man, That beautiful intertwining between the word and the prophecy is the signature of God.
And finally, ALL of that, wrapped up with a big blue-and-white bow, complete with tassles (tzitzit) HAS TO be declared in the beginning, because that is in effect, the gauntlet thrown down before the nations - The PROOF that YHWH ALONE is God - That He says from the beginning what will be in the end. Not only to the nations, but to each and every generation. I cannot prove it perfectly, but everything I have ever looked at has it's beginning in the Torah (what was said in the beginning). It is like an acorn holding the entirety of the oak tree within it's tiny little self.
ALL prophecy is unintelligible in it's fulfillment until it's time. Why then would he effect a change (change that which can't be changed thus causing His word to be empty) instead of simply doing as He always has and simply declare from the beginning what is unintelligible until it's time?
Therefore, I believe you are working under a false pretense, foremost in that is the idea that the church is different from the assembly.
Understand that the Inheritance of Abraham, passed down to the twelve tribes IS PROPHETIC. An inheritance requires the death of the testator, else the inheritance is not distributed... Ergo, one should begin to see that inheritance begin to be released after the death of Messiah, because they could *not* have begun until then! Look to the inheritance and the manifold promises given directly to Ephraim (in the main, and all the rest) and know that they all MUST come to pass.
I think you and I are both aware of where we are in the prophetic timeline... There is no way all that is yet to come, there isn't time for it to happen... So it HAS happened already. It must have occurred AFTER Messiah (death of the testator, the promises were from YHWH), and must be finished at the sounding of the seventh trumpet (when the mystery given to the prophets is finished)... Tell me then, where is Ephraim (the fruitful bough, the strong arm of YHWH)?
There is the word (narrative) intertwined with the prophets, foremost among them, Hosea (and Isaiah) as has already been declared to you. In that, understanding the assembly, you will find the Church to be all over the place in the OT.
Really, man, this is such a compressed delivery... We really have to go sit on the porch for a week or two to really pound it out. It is SUCH a big thing. From what I know of you, you are capable of seeking it out - I just don't know how to deliver it without a whole lot more time.
Like one preacher tries to make an analogy; the OT prophets saw the two mountains far off but they couldn't see the valley that was inbetween them...
Naw - The Prophecy is ticking right along like a big ol' Swiss watch. Because of Replacement Theology, we haven't seen it playing out right before our eyes. Just like the Catlicks not being able to see the portent in the restoration of Israel. Don't get me wrong, all y'all are half way there - Just climb a little higher up Zion and you will be amazed at what you can see.
God took Israel out of the loop...
That depends entirely on which Israel you are talking about.
Well, way to go, back at you...
Except you didn't get the meaning down exactly right. You are correct to go for the Hebrew meaning, and the word is "aman" in Hebrew.
"We now know that the Hebrew word for "believe" is "aman" and has a very different meaning from our understanding of "believe". The Hebrew word "aman" appears to have the more Hebraic meaning of "support". Going back to the concordance we can look up this word looking for verses that contain parallels. Below are several verses with the word "aman" (#539) within them. As the books of Psalms and Proverbs are all poetic, this is the best place to find parallels."
The Hebrew word for sin is "chata".
"The concrete meaning to "sin" is "to miss" as when aiming at a target. From the parallels between "believe not" and "sin" we find that if one "sins" they do not believe God showing that a belief in God is dependent upon our actions. We also found that "singing" is synonymous with "belief" as a belief in God is something to be expressed outwardly.
This is why it's so important to go back to the Hebrew Root for nourishment of our understanding of what the truth really is.
Btw, you'll discover pretty much the same thing with the word Faith, it means to support in it's Hebrew version too. The reference I used (there plenty of others that explain it): http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/20_poetry.html
Ti reinforce the previously post by Errant, Faith/Belief comes by hearing So maybe you ought to understand the Hebrew sense of TO HEAR... Because without hearing, there is not faith/belief...
Oh really? Would you like me to go back and list how many times we have been excoriated for exposing this supposed “man of God”? It certainly was the messenger in those posts wasn’t it?
>>IT’S THE MESSAGE!<<
You have been shown over and over again how the message is also wrong.
Yes they are, but even the Messianic Jews distance themselves from people like Rood, the Hebrew roots movement, The Way International etc.
Rood’s beliefs are mostly derived from the Shem Tov, which is a completely heretical document claiming to be the Hebrew version of the New Testament and specifically the book of Matthew. Proof that Rood uses it can be found in this statement he wrote for the introduction of a book written by Nehemiah Gordon called “The Hebrew Yeshua vs. the Greek Jesus” which is based on the Shem Tov.
"Yeshua's brutally honest words in the Hebrew version of Matthew are nothing short of revolutionary for the believer. This is the revelation for which I have been waiting an entire lifetime!" Michael Rood
The problem is that the Shem Tov is a completely corrupted translation and denies the deity of Christ. Which by the way Rood’s friend and Karaite (a whole nother apostasy in itself which Rood and his new wife took vows to) also does.
An expose on the corrupted Shem Tov can be found here
A quote from that site gives the gist of it.
“Shem Tov is a completely heretical document, and internal evidence makes it clear it was a Jewish contrivance that sought to draw Christians back towards the authority of the Jewish sages. In fact, there are statements within Shem Tov that demonstrate the author was versed in a prior polemical attack on the Gospel found in a hideous writing known as the Toledoth Yeshu.
The word faith is used in the OT only 2 times...
One time it is:
Deu 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.
And that faith in the Hebrew is translated:
אמנה אמוּנה
'ĕmûnâh 'ĕmûnâh
em-oo-naw', em-oo-naw'
Feminine of H529; literally firmness; figuratively security; moral fidelity: - faith (-ful, -ly, -ness, [man]), set office, stability, steady, truly, truth, verily.<.p>
That pretty much mimics the Greek translation as it is used in the NT...
The other verse is:
Hab 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.
'ĕmûnâh 'ĕmûnâh
em-oo-naw', em-oo-naw'
Feminine of H529; literally firmness; figuratively security; moral fidelity: - faith (-ful, -ly, -ness, [man]), set office, stability, steady, truly, truth, verily.
But since the NT was written in Greek, it doesn't matter what faith was translated into in Hebrew...Faith is translated in the Greek as:
πίστις
pistis
pis'-tis
From G3982; persuasion, that is, credence; moral conviction (of religious truth, or the truthfulness of God or a religious teacher), especially reliance upon Christ for salvation; abstractly constancy in such profession; by extension the system of religious (Gospel) truth itself: - assurance, belief, believe, faith, fidelity.
And to put the icing on the cake, the bible itself gives us the definition of faith in the Greek...
Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
The law and faith are two opposing forces...
Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Pretty clear scripture here...And since the 'law' was our schoolmaster, we can know the reference to the law is not the false law of the Pharisees...
Faith-Hebrew
שׁמע
shâma‛
shaw-mah'
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.): - X attentively, call (gather) together, X carefully, X certainly, consent, consider, be content, declare, X diligently, discern, give ear, (cause to, let, make to) hear (-ken, tell), X indeed, listen, make (a) noise, (be) obedient, obey, perceive, (make a) proclaim (-ation), publish, regard, report, shew (forth), (make a) sound, X surely, tell, understand, whosoever [heareth], witness.
Man, obey is so far down the line you have to reject numerous other meanings to even see it...
Here is the word in Greek:
ἀκούω
akouō
ak-oo'-o
A primary verb; to hear (in various senses): - give (in the) audience (of), come (to the ears), ([shall]) hear (-er, -ken), be noised, be reported, understand.
No obey in there whatsoever...It looks like you guys are grasping at straws...
We need to stick with the Greek root since that is what the NT was written in...
The rat comic has it about right.
...”They hiss like their Father”...
Your giving yourself away by the ‘language’ you use, ......can you not just respond with any degree of actual dialogue rather than fire at people?
...I guess not.
....”Rood’s teaching during the Church Age will do nothing except send people to Hell”....
Indeed...and Rood will lead people to fall under ‘the great deception’ far more easily since he’s already using deceptive means to obtain his own following.
That is such total BS that it's hardly worth the time to address. Ever hear of the KJV of the Bible? I'd not hesitate to suggest that's where "Rood’s beliefs are mostly derived from"!
When you are at a loss on how to further the unfurtherable, you again result to attacking the messenger with the most outlandish claims imaginable. Your statements are not only embarrassing to yourself, but also to those who align themselves with your silliness.
And again, your sources are blatantly biased and of such questionable character that they are not to be taken seriously.
The source you've linked in your post is another backroom blogger by the name of James Lloyd. Find out who he is and what he is about here:
The true story of James Lloyd doing business as Christian Media Network
The guy sneaks in under the wire of churches...only when they look closer do they see he's definitely a Wolf in Sheep's clothing... Unfortunately, just like with political candidates....too many won't take a closer look at what these shysters are about...instead.... if it sounds good and makes them feel good, that's enough for them.
Please fully explain your reasoning behind your suggestion that we should go with the Greek root...
.....<<<<<<”The KJV Bible... that’s where “Rood’s beliefs are mostly derived from”>>>>>>>>
No, not true.
Rood’s beliefs are those he himself develops.. then he takes scriptures and twists it to suite his agenda just like all cult leaders do.
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