Posted on 12/11/2013 6:13:05 PM PST by Windflier
Longtime YouTube political poster, Christopher Greene, makes a strong case for why the state of Texas will secede from the union.
“Texas, being the only state that was once a nation”
How does one define “nation”? The 13 colonies, once independent, each thought of themselves as sovereign.
Regardless, those colonies declared themselves free. That is the point.
Where does it say a supposedly free people must be bound to a government forever?
Please don’t reply that the Civil War decided this. Give us a principle, not an act of brute force.
Perhaps you're not aware of the fact that Texas is one of the few states that has the resources to be completely self sufficient.
In fact, we'd welcome an embargo from the blue states, as all they export to us are liberals and other blood sucking vermin.
Well, I suppose we'll send the poor fedsuckers a few dollars to compensate them for their loss. After we reconcile the books on our over-payments in federal taxes over the years.
“If they don’t do all these things, they will just become like the country from which they seceded. A lot of effort for nothing.”
That is what a weak minded person would say - give up before you start. “If...”. well, IF a solar flare destroys the earth tomorrow afternoon, we wasted the fact we got out of bed tomorrow morning.
That would be Montana. Their hats keep blowing off.
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There is of course no doctrine of "states rights" as Sam claims. It's the doctrine of "state powers" that the Constitution describes.
The democRAT solution is what prince andrew is doing in NY.
Making it so unpleasant that any conservative feels like an alien in his own home that they will leave. Sort of like what Coleman Young did to Detroit. Thus the democRAT wins with even stronger majorities and does even more to alienate even more. That’s how Detriot became the paradise it is now. And the entirety of New York State is headed in the same direction. It is what the democRATS want....they want no opposition.
How does one define “nation”? The 13 colonies, once independent, each thought of themselves as sovereign.
Actually, the Framers didn't use the word "nation" in the Constitution or the Federalist Papers. They spoke of the Country, of the People (one People = one State), of the Union, of a confederation, and of the federal republic. But they didn't bandy around the word "Nation".
The United Colonies became the United States de facto by acts of war, and de jure by the concession of sovereignty by George III in the Treaty of Paris to each and every State, each of which was named seriatim and addressed individually.
There is n o doubt that each State was a sovereign republic; and each State was not a geographic place but a People who lived there. "State" = "People".
My friend, I want no part of secession.
But this is not 1861. The industrial power to the North is spent. The economic power of the South is now huge. The energy production of the South & West overshadows the northern production.
The B_tards in DC need us. Without TX and the South they are cold, hungry and bankrupt.
Tell them TOMAH.
“I agree with you 1000%. I feel more free here, more independent, more “git er done “ :D”
You understand the independence we feel and we are glad to have you. Our legislature meets every TWO years. We figure that’s enough time to “fix” anything that needs attention. We are not bothered by them every year, they leave us alone. That’s a good thing.
Absolutely right.
Thank you,,,,,,Sometimes I wish there was a FR section with no Yankee commenters.
This is the idiotic attitude holding us back.
I’m with you too, I’m an old Tennessee Boy. As I recall about 168 years ago a bunch of ragtag Tennessee boys volunteered to go to SAN ANTONIO to help liberate the present state of Texas from Mexico and Santa Ana’s forces. What we have today is much worse, in my opinion, and I am siding with the ones that want the same freedom that those Ol’ boys wanted and were willing to fight and die for. I’m in, I have lived in Texas before, it’s pretty good place to live, I will miss my mountains though.
GOD Bless you all (and my freedom to say that)
You all will forgive me—but there is something real sad about this thread.
I would hope that we could ALL band together to save the Union.
I don’t know. Something is coming and it’s coming soon.
May God our Father and His Son be with us all.
As a Texan I believe we need no legal standing to secede per se. Declare us no longer part of the U.S. Stop sending dollars to D.C. and they to us. Negotiate the status of Federal Property within the state boundary, etc, so on.
However, I don’t think we’re going to do it nor anytime soon. Perry ain’t going to do it. Abbot, presumably the next Guv, sure isn’t. I remember hearing a poll about a year ago of Texans regarding secession and it was 65-35 against the idea.
If Texas cut off the underground supply line for heating oil from Texas City and the area around the Port of Houston, to Washington, D.C. and states up the east coast including New York City, Hussein would freeze his butt and New York City would freeze, and we would stop sending gasoline as most of it comes from those plants as well, and Hussein wouldn’t have any gas for his limousine.
I used to have stock in a transmission company, called TRANSCO at that time, and I saw a diagram of those lines and it looks like a spider web due to our sending so much product to the north.
Texas could be self sufficient for sure and Hussein could stay cold and without transportation and that wouldn’t be a bad thing. No fuel for Air Force One and he couldn’t take a zillion vacations.
Well do it. You’re all hat, no cattle.
“I remember hearing a poll about a year ago of Texans regarding secession and it was 65-35 against the idea.”
I know the poll you are talking about and believe it was more than one year ago. Hussein is destroying us so fast that now is not the same as a year ago or two years ago. There comes a time when it is so bad, there is no other choice just as our forefathers of this nation had no choice but to disengage from England.
Hopefully, we can save the nation before it fails.
Git ‘er done.
I’ve already contacted my state and national reps requesting they at least do feasibility studies and not get caught with their pants down.
Google search the railroad commissioner’s recent comments. They’ll set you on fire.
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