[Seizethecarp]

An interesting 5 minute discussion, now that Barry is safely reelected (they assume)...

[Seizethecarp]

ping to MSNBC finally discussing the NBC issue for 5 minutes, now that the election is over and they can try to mock ‘birthers’ and the GOP over whether Cruz being born in Canada will be an issue. Rubio not having even one US citizen parent at birth did not come up. They laugh about courts likely finding Barry to be eligible even if born in Kenya.

[Jeff Winston]

Alex Wagner: Ambition aside there remains a question of constitutionality. Cruz was born in Calgary. That's in Canada to a mother who is an American citizen, so does he pass the natural born citizen qualification for president?

Yes.

[1_Rain_Drop]

"The theory is anybody the American people elect, they'll be fine. The courts will work around the natural born citizen thing, so all this craziness last year...forget it!"

So Sarkozy, Bibi and Putin could be the next Presidents of US

[Spaulding]

It was inevitable that the whitewash be maintained since both parties were complicit in 2008; Obama was born a British Subject, and boldly proclaimed to a low-information or thoroughly intimidated legal community, too afraid of losing the privileges they had, that he was a naturalized citizen. McCain was exposed in the 2000 election, with law suits and congressional hearings never settled or conclusive, and Senators Obama and McCaskill muddying the waters with two senate actions. Senate Bill 2678, February 2008, the ‘‘Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act’’, and when that failed, Senate Resolution 511, The “John McCain Citizen Act”, which is not actionable, carries no legal weight.

Here is the unequivocal definition the media and progressives literally tried to hide by “mangling” citations in on line Supreme Court decisions, the keystone paragraph from Minor v. Happersett, 88 US 162 (1875):

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.<,/blockquote>”

[autumnraine]

It doesn’t matter where Mitt’s FATHER was born, he was a US Citizen. For that matter, if Mitt was born in Mexico to two US Citizens, it still wouldn’t matter.

Obama was born to a NON-US CITIZEN and to a US CITIZEN WHO WAS NOT OLD ENOUGH TO LEGALLY GIVE OBAMA CITIZENSHIP, much less NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP if he was born outside the US.

That’s a fact that duds on TV don’t seem to handle, or research for that matter.

[PoloSec]

The MSM continues to have it their way...whether or not Obama was born in another country is a legitimate question, but it is not (THE) question.

The focus needs to be on the submission of a fraudulent document submitted as proof of eligibility, his birth certificate.

As demonstrated by many comments above, the MSM has successfully defined the issue their way, by keeping the focus on place of birth, rather than fraudulent documents.

[rwoodward]

Sounds like they are getting worried about Judge Roy Moore case.

[SvenMagnussen]

"The theory is anybody the American people elect, they'll be fine."

Correct. In case of a usurper being elected President, the individual must object on a case by case basis if adverse action is taken against the individual. See Ryder v. United States (94-431), 515 U.S. 177 (1995).

For example, a defendant can object to a Judge appointed by a usurper or prosecution because of a law signed by a usurper in pre-trial hearings. You cannot have a usurper removed because you object when there are 50 million voters who do not object and are pleased with what the usurper is doing.

Elections have consequences.

The Appointments Clause reads in full:

"[The President] shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments." U. S. Const., Art. II, §2, cl. 2.

[Wurlitzer]

This country stinks to high heaven with lawyers in and out of political office and sitting (no thinking) on the bench and still somehow we are having a debate over if a man who first claimed himself to be Kenyan born when he ran for senate then a miracle of post birth occurred and his fetid fetus emerged in Hawaii.

The Founders did not write the Constitution in Vulcan and even if these alleged brilliant lawyers and judges can not agree on the language contained therein, the Federalist Papers are the Owner’s Manual for those too thick headed or, lets be truthful, so dishonest as to constantly obscure the meaning of our founding.

Even at the level of the Not So Supreme Court, we have black robed morons who pump out and endless stream of 5-4 decisions PROVING to any honest person that those decisions are 100% political and not founded in original intent. The only other explanation is their IQ is lower than an eggplant.

[null and void]

Constitutional Eligibility

An interesting 5 minute discussion, now that Barry is safely reelected (they assume)...

We got away with kidnapping Lady Liberty, that means we can keep her.

[Huskerfan44]

Spin & more spin.
Keeps the media paychecks flowing.

[bluecat6]

So is it a) born in this country, regardless of parentage (14th Amendment coupled with citizen AT birth statement); b) born in this county and at least one citizen parent (a possible scenario for the current holder of office of POTUS); c) born on US controlled soil to 2 citizen parents (the McCain official story); d) born anywhere in the world to 2 US citizen parents (the immigration act of 1790 approach); e) born anywhere in the world to one US citizen parent (the Obama Kenya scenario) or f) “all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens” - the official RULING of the Supreme Court of the United states.

There are a lot of options out there!

[combat_boots]

Would you follow this man blindly? Look at him.