Obama knew about Gun Walking in March, 2009

The plan most likely started with Obama.

Umm... a hint maybe?

So Holder perjured himself again when he said that Obama didn’t know anything about Fast and Furious?

Some observations...

Ogden's speech cadence and body language go completely to Hell when he starts talking about "gun tracing." It's very obvious that he's taking caution while talking about it. I would say that he's complicit and directly involved in the operation.

Napolitano flicks her nose at the 3:00 mark while beginning to answer the question posed to her. She's frustrated, her body language and posture change, she shifts her weight a lot, and her speech cadence change. It's VERY obvious she's taking caution while talking about it.

This is pretty damning evidence against the administration, in my opinion, and it's plain that this operation was ordered and supported by DHS, DOJ, and the White House. Obama should swing for this.

there you have it

Wow, that’s damning, hang’em high!

Sorry not proof, but does lead toward it.

Gun Runner was not Fast And Furious just as Wide Receiver was not. There may be documents that do link the GR with FF or POTUS with FF but this presser does not do that, which it did though.

YouTube: Obama knew about Gun Walking in March, 2009

Excellent job.

We need lots of rope....they should all swing.

correction WISH it did

Predident Obama’s initiative. (Obama’s scheme cooked up with Holder.)

Thanks for the link.

Interesting and possibly indicting, but how is this announcement different from Operation Wide Receiver?

Pretty interesting video.

I do agree, it sounds to me as if the name "Fast and Furious" was substituded for the maiden name "Gun Runner".

I googled "Fast and Furious", the quotes making the search specific to the words and their order... I got 70,700,000 results... Really.

F&F and WR were sub-sets of Gunrunner:

This (below) from Wiki.

(BTW, The ridiculous and superfluous “thanks” given by each speaker to Obama reminds me of terrorists beginning each statement with “By the will and grace of the all-powerful and merciful Allah, we today announce that we have killed......)

WIKI:

“ATF Project Gunrunner has a stated official objective to stop the sale and export of guns from the United States into Mexico in order to deny Mexican drug cartels the firearms considered “tools of the trade”.[20] However, since 2006 under Operation Fast and Furious, Operation Wide Receiver and others, it did the opposite by permitting, encouraging and facilitating ‘straw purchase’ firearm sales to traffickers, and allowing the guns to ‘walk’ and be transported to Mexico. This has resulted in the death of US border agent Brian Terry and considerable controversy.[2][21][22][23]

Senator Charles E. Grassley (R-IA) initiated an investigation with a letter to ATF on 27 January 2011,[24] and again on 31 January 2011. ATF responded through the Department of Justice by denying all allegations.[25] Senator Grassley responded with specific documentation supporting the allegations in letters to U.S. Attorney General Holder on 9 Feb 2011[26] and 16 Feb 2011.[27] ATF refused to answer specific questions in a formal briefing to Senator Grassley on 10 Feb 2011.

In October 2011, documents were released that indicated Holder was sent memos in regards to Operation Fast and Furious in 2010, contradicting Holder's sworn testimony before the House Judiciary Committee in which he said he was unaware of Operation Fast and Furious until April 2011. In response, Lamar Smith, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, sent a letter to President Obama, requesting the appointment of an independent special counsel to investigate whether Holder committed perjury by lying to the committee while under oath.[28]

Indictments filed in federal court, documentation obtained by Senator Grassley, and statements of ATF agents obtained by Senator Grassley and CBS News, show that the ATF Phoenix Field Division allowed and facilitated the sale of over 2,500 firearms (AK-47 rifles, FN 5.7mm pistols, AK-47 pistols, and .50 caliber rifles) in ‘straw man purchases’ destined for Mexico.[21][29][30][31][32][33] According to ATF agents, Mexican officials were not notified, and ATF agents operating in Mexico were instructed not to alert Mexican authorities about the operation.[34] Some ATF agents and supervisors strongly objected, and gun dealers (who were cooperating with ATF) protested the sales, but were asked by ATF to complete the transactions to expose the supply chain and gather intelligence.[21][35] However, there are accusations that the ATF was attempting to boost statistics to ‘prove’ that American guns are arming the Mexican drug cartels and to further budget and political objectives.[36] It has been established that this operation violated long-established ATF policies and practices and that it is not a recognized investigative technique.[37]

Many of these same guns are being recovered from crime scenes in Arizona[38] and throughout Mexico,[39] which is artificially inflating ATF’s eTrace statistics of U.S. origin guns seized in Mexico. Two of these guns recovered at the crime scene are linked to the murder of Customs and Border Protection Agent Brian Terry on December 14, 2010.”

F&F and WR were sub-sets of Gunrunner:

This (below) from Wiki.

(BTW, The ridiculous and superfluous “thanks” given by each speaker to Obama reminds me of terrorists beginning each statement with “By the will and grace of the all-powerful and merciful Allah, we today announce that we have killed......)

WIKI:

“ATF Project Gunrunner has a stated official objective to stop the sale and export of guns from the United States into Mexico in order to deny Mexican drug cartels the firearms considered “tools of the trade”.[20] However, since 2006 under Operation Fast and Furious, Operation Wide Receiver and others, it did the opposite by permitting, encouraging and facilitating ‘straw purchase’ firearm sales to traffickers, and allowing the guns to ‘walk’ and be transported to Mexico. This has resulted in the death of US border agent Brian Terry and considerable controversy.[2][21][22][23]

Senator Charles E. Grassley (R-IA) initiated an investigation with a letter to ATF on 27 January 2011,[24] and again on 31 January 2011. ATF responded through the Department of Justice by denying all allegations.[25] Senator Grassley responded with specific documentation supporting the allegations in letters to U.S. Attorney General Holder on 9 Feb 2011[26] and 16 Feb 2011.[27] ATF refused to answer specific questions in a formal briefing to Senator Grassley on 10 Feb 2011.

In October 2011, documents were released that indicated Holder was sent memos in regards to Operation Fast and Furious in 2010, contradicting Holder's sworn testimony before the House Judiciary Committee in which he said he was unaware of Operation Fast and Furious until April 2011. In response, Lamar Smith, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, sent a letter to President Obama, requesting the appointment of an independent special counsel to investigate whether Holder committed perjury by lying to the committee while under oath.[28]

Indictments filed in federal court, documentation obtained by Senator Grassley, and statements of ATF agents obtained by Senator Grassley and CBS News, show that the ATF Phoenix Field Division allowed and facilitated the sale of over 2,500 firearms (AK-47 rifles, FN 5.7mm pistols, AK-47 pistols, and .50 caliber rifles) in ‘straw man purchases’ destined for Mexico.[21][29][30][31][32][33] According to ATF agents, Mexican officials were not notified, and ATF agents operating in Mexico were instructed not to alert Mexican authorities about the operation.[34] Some ATF agents and supervisors strongly objected, and gun dealers (who were cooperating with ATF) protested the sales, but were asked by ATF to complete the transactions to expose the supply chain and gather intelligence.[21][35] However, there are accusations that the ATF was attempting to boost statistics to ‘prove’ that American guns are arming the Mexican drug cartels and to further budget and political objectives.[36] It has been established that this operation violated long-established ATF policies and practices and that it is not a recognized investigative technique.[37]

Many of these same guns are being recovered from crime scenes in Arizona[38] and throughout Mexico,[39] which is artificially inflating ATF’s eTrace statistics of U.S. origin guns seized in Mexico. Two of these guns recovered at the crime scene are linked to the murder of Customs and Border Protection Agent Brian Terry on December 14, 2010.”

Bump! This is the only explanation.

Gunrunner is not Fast & Furious. F & F was covert- Gunrunner was known publicly.

"Gun tracing in Mexico to target the providers in the US."

There was the motivation. Then the plant (si!) reporter from Mexico asks the key question from their viewpoint, "Can you stop it without prosecuting the gun sellers in the US?"

And then Nappsy adds:

"Gun tracing will help us identify who is putting those arms into the arms...uhh uhh uhh... the guns into the arms of the traffickers moving south uhhh and uhhh out of that there can reasonably be seen more prosecution of actual arms dealers who are intentionally and knowingly uhh putting arms into the hands of the smugglers. So that is part of the reason uhhh uhhh why the Department of Justice is such an essential part of this inititiave on uhhh Mexico."

Wow, that's a confession right there, right out of the Homeland Security Secretary's stuttering mouth, implicating herself, Obama and Holder specifically.