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1 posted on 06/20/2012 2:41:01 PM PDT by hope
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To: hope

The plan most likely started with Obama.


2 posted on 06/20/2012 2:47:45 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: hope

Umm... a hint maybe?


3 posted on 06/20/2012 2:48:51 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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So Holder perjured himself again when he said that Obama didn’t know anything about Fast and Furious?


4 posted on 06/20/2012 2:48:58 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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Some observations...

Ogden's speech cadence and body language go completely to Hell when he starts talking about "gun tracing." It's very obvious that he's taking caution while talking about it. I would say that he's complicit and directly involved in the operation.

Napolitano flicks her nose at the 3:00 mark while beginning to answer the question posed to her. She's frustrated, her body language and posture change, she shifts her weight a lot, and her speech cadence change. It's VERY obvious she's taking caution while talking about it.

This is pretty damning evidence against the administration, in my opinion, and it's plain that this operation was ordered and supported by DHS, DOJ, and the White House. Obama should swing for this.

5 posted on 06/20/2012 2:49:16 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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there you have it


6 posted on 06/20/2012 2:49:33 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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Wow, that’s damning, hang’em high!


7 posted on 06/20/2012 2:49:49 PM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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Excellent job.

We need lots of rope....they should all swing.


10 posted on 06/20/2012 2:52:06 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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Predident Obama’s initiative. (Obama’s scheme cooked up with Holder.)


12 posted on 06/20/2012 2:54:14 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: hope

Interesting and possibly indicting, but how is this announcement different from Operation Wide Receiver?


14 posted on 06/20/2012 2:56:22 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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Pretty interesting video.

I do agree, it sounds to me as if the name "Fast and Furious" was substituded for the maiden name "Gun Runner".

I googled "Fast and Furious", the quotes making the search specific to the words and their order... I got 70,700,000 results... Really.

15 posted on 06/20/2012 2:57:11 PM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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Gunrunner is not Fast & Furious. F & F was covert- Gunrunner was known publicly.


19 posted on 06/20/2012 3:03:05 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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"Gun tracing in Mexico to target the providers in the US."

There was the motivation. Then the plant (si!) reporter from Mexico asks the key question from their viewpoint, "Can you stop it without prosecuting the gun sellers in the US?"

And then Nappsy adds:

"Gun tracing will help us identify who is putting those arms into the arms...uhh uhh uhh... the guns into the arms of the traffickers moving south uhhh and uhhh out of that there can reasonably be seen more prosecution of actual arms dealers who are intentionally and knowingly uhh putting arms into the hands of the smugglers. So that is part of the reason uhhh uhhh why the Department of Justice is such an essential part of this inititiave on uhhh Mexico."

Wow, that's a confession right there, right out of the Homeland Security Secretary's stuttering mouth, implicating herself, Obama and Holder specifically.

20 posted on 06/20/2012 3:03:51 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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POWERFUL! Thanks for posting.

Pre-meditated, agenda-driven MURDER. It did not matter who or how many died, or whether they were Mexicans or Americans, drug cartel members or United States Customs and Border Patrol officers.

TREASON

More evidence...HERE...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjfyu0rkAxM

“Everything about socialism is sham and affectation.” - 23.11 Ch23 Evil; Economic Harmonies; Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850

FULB
FUDF
FUEH
FUBO


21 posted on 06/20/2012 3:05:40 PM PDT by PGalt
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interesting and probably damning....my guess is the president knew as much about the genesis of this as he did with the Osama Bin laden killing.

Obama had no clue about what was in Obama-care, but he takes credit for it.

Obama’s cockroaches always seem to use Obama’s name or the WH as “directed by”, whenever they think they have something good going on and want to give him credit.

23 posted on 06/20/2012 3:06:27 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance)
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Brian Terry died for his country. Obama and Holder can’t even tell the truth to their country... and only for political reasons. Holder once said we were a country of cowards. It seems Holer and Obama are the cowards.


24 posted on 06/20/2012 3:06:32 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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Janet looks like an only child telling Mom that she honestly didn’t put the cat in the dryer and she has no idea who did.

More Federal agents, More snooping technology.

Just what America needs/s

More Government.


25 posted on 06/20/2012 3:06:46 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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The theory that the BP oil rig was sabotaged to give Obama the excuse he needed to virtually ban domestic oil drilling seems all the more plausible now..

Saul Alinsky tactic:

1) Define the 'CHANGE' (Gun control)
2) Fabricate the excuse for gun control (F&F guns run amok)
3) Implement gun control (on FFL's in U.S.)

1) Define the 'CHANGE' (Kill conventional oil drilling industry)
2) Fabricate the excuse to ban drilling (BP oil rig disaster)
3) Implement oil drilling moratoriums (Obama revokes licenses, falsifies committee reports, denies new permits, issues oil drilling moratoriums)

26 posted on 06/20/2012 3:11:24 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: hope

This goes all the way to Obama, just as we all knew from the beginning.


31 posted on 06/20/2012 3:16:45 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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Wow! People should hang for this! (((ping)))


32 posted on 06/20/2012 3:17:22 PM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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The question is, who made the decision and when, to allow (or even facilitate) the movement of guns across the border into Mexico with no attempt or intent to intercept or even track their movement? And was the real intent for these weapons to be used in crimes in Mexico so that they could be traced by serial number through the BATFE to gun shops on the American side of the border? This for political gain with total disregard for the safety of the people of Mexico. I’m pretty sure that the latter angle represents and Act of War.


33 posted on 06/20/2012 3:18:43 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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