Posted on 05/11/2012 6:10:55 PM PDT by Manic_Episode
If a candidate should not get a christians vote because he is not totaly against abortion...then no christian should ever vote for any unsaved Candidate...
arent all sins the same in God’s eyes?
who did you vote for in the last election? was He saved? did he ever support anything that could be construed as a sin?
This is not a Theocracy...it is a Constitutional republic.
Get a Life.
Define “saved.” As far as I know, all bets are off until a life is lived.
Is Rodney running for Pope?
As a matter of fact I didn’t. I voted for both Bush’s and for Reagan. I voted for other candidates on the ballot however (local).
Have you been listening to J. Vernon? :^)
Absolutely not. But I’m not voting for Romney or Obama.
Christians were given brains and are expected to use them. Voting means making a judgement call. Unless the Lord tells you who to vote for, you’re expected to educate yourself and vote for whom you think best, even if that’s the lesser of two evils.
In my opinion, there is not enough difference between Romney and Obama, that I’m not going to vote for the lesser of two evils. I’m going to vote for Goode not evil.
I’ll do this in hopes that either the GOP will change course. Or that the constitution party will grow in strength and supplant the GOP.
Absolutely not. But I’m not voting for Romney or Obama.
Christians were given brains and are expected to use them. Voting means making a judgement call. Unless the Lord tells you who to vote for, you’re expected to educate yourself and vote for whom you think best, even if that’s the lesser of two evils.
In my opinion, there is not enough difference between Romney and Obama, that I’m not going to vote for the lesser of two evils. I’m going to vote for Goode not evil.
I’ll do this in hopes that either the GOP will change course. Or that the constitution party will grow in strength and supplant the GOP.
I think the fundamental error is presuming to know God’s will. He is in total control; if you vote for Romney and he wins, God is in control; if you don’t vote for Romney and he wins, God is in control; if you vote for Romney and he loses, God is in control; if you don’t vote for Romney and he loses, God is in control. Things are moving according to His plan. So, stay home and don’t vote or go to the polls and vote for whomever you like. You will not alter God’s plans either way, although you run some risk in attempting to persuade others to your point of view. Since you quoted Paul, remember also that just before the quote you started this thread with, he said, “So whatever you believe about these things keep them between yourself and God. Blessed are those who do not condemn themselves by what they approve.”
Frankly, whether or not it would be a sin is immaterial. I will not vote for either Romama or Obamney!
Plus he's been dead for 25 years :p
Dietrich Bonhoeffer would disagree
"Lying to your grandmother that your grandfather never cheated on her is still a sin, right?"
Rahab the harlot was rewarded for lying to save righteous lives.
This may fall into that category.
More important since all politics and all religion are local: is it a sin to vote for Joe Bloe for dog catcher?
It's safe to say that a strong majority here on FR do not like Mittens.
It's safe to say that a large segment of registered republicans were hoping for something better, something like a legitimate debate and primary process.
It isn't just safe, it's locked in, that all this simpering can only boost our illegitimate incumbent and his very much greater of two undesirable alternatives.
Get over it!
Regroup for the next time around and don't screw up like we did following 2008/2010.
I assume that you are not a Christian. If you are a Christian, your principle is nonsense. The first four commandments of the Ten Commandments have little or nothing to do with our relationships with others.
I do presume that God hates abortion
“So whatever you believe about these things keep them between yourself and God. Blessed are those who do not condemn themselves by what they approve.”
Sound advice indeed. Thank you.
I think y’all are missing the boat here.
What God requires is that you love your fellow man. No man is perfect, and even a saved man can still make mistakes. Voting requires a judgement call between two or more imperfect humans. Even a saved man, who scripture speaks of as “having been perfected forever” is capable of doing wrong in this life.
It’s not a sin to vote for an imperfect man. It’s a sin to fail to act in a loving manner.
And no Presidio, all bets aren’t off until a life is lived. Jesus said who ever believes on me HAS everlasting life. And it’s not everlasting if you can lose it. Scripture says we have been perfected for ever. It also says “Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.”
Get you head around this. I’m perfect because I have the imputed righteousness of Jesus. Not because I’m perfect in my own right. I’m saved, and nothing in this life can intefere with that. The Prophet Samuel said we would never leave God. Jesus said He would never drive us away. Scripture says “These things are written that you might KNOW that you are saved.” And Paul said that “neither life nor death nor..... can separate us from the love of God.
I took God up on his promise. And God won’t fail me, because it depends on Him not me. He didn’t say it was conditional on me living a perfect life the rest of my days. But Paul said “I know whom I have believed and am confident that He is faithful to keep that which I’ve committed unto Him against that day.”
I really get a kick out of everyone making an issue of Mitt being a Mormon - especially the Libtards on the left. I like to remind them the HARRY REID is also a Mormon!
Read the Constitution - schmuck! There is NO RELIGIOUS test to hold office in this country - none. Anybody - including a non-christian lamppost will do if it will send Obama back to Chicago. I really do not know what is confusing.
Did you fill a bong before you began writing? I understand the jist of it, but still you lived up to your name.
Manic_Episode,
The simple answer is no.
Brief explanation: Romney is better for the nation than Obama, not by as much as I would like, but better.
Lastly, Romney is no Savior. Nor was the much loved Ronald Reagan. There is one Savior and one only. He has been the only Savior from the beginning.
National leaders come and go; they are never to be judged by us as holders of political office to be either good and evil, just or unjust. Those are theological terms and categories. Whether the individuals who hold this or that political office will be accounted one way or the other will be dealt with on Judgment Day by a far higher and completely objective authority. Many political leaders do fear and, indeed, should fear Judgment Day. Our task is simply to choose the one who would best serve all the people of this nation, our neighbors. This is the exercise of our responsibilities as citizens of the USA.
Practically speaking, Romney is far less of a danger to the constitutional (lawful) governance of this nation than Obama - call it the lesser of two evils if you must. A Christian can vote for Romney with a clear conscience, while at the same time giving no assent or support to Mormonism, which is itself - at best - a post-Christian, neo-pagan religion. In this regard, the choice is between a Mormon (post-Christian, neo-pagan), who is at least by his words supportive of the founding documents/philosophy of this nation, and a socialist, who, personally, is plainly post-Christian if not anti-Christian, and is by his words and actions opposed to the founding documents/philosophy of this nation. If one also takes into account natural law/human conscience, Romney at least seems more in line with such. Obama is clearly an anti-nomian.
I, personally, would have preferred someone other than Romney as the alternative for the nation’s choice. However, that was not to be. But Romney is clearly better than Obama.
Neither of them is Satan or Ba’al. BO is a muslim communist and Mittens is a liberal lying politician.
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