Posted on 04/03/2011 6:05:16 PM PDT by jfd1776
In a small town in Florida on March 20, the pastor of a small church held a public event: burning a koran for his audience and a video camera. His American Christian audience reacted as one would expect from them: they were happy to be a part of this provocative event; they returned to their homes and jobs after the service, and went on with their lives.
The world continued to turn… nobody of substance cared about Pastor Jones’ latest attempt at news coverage… until almost two weeks later, when it made the news half a planet away, in Afghanistan.
The president of Afghanistan denounced the event; imams and mullahs hammered it in their mosques. Their Afghan muslim audience reacted as one would expect from them: they streamed out into the streets, hunting down foreigners, beating hundreds of UN aides, NATO staffers, contractors, travelers, journalists, soldiers… rioting in the streets, burning the shops in their own neighborhoods, destroying property, attacking innocent bystanders. At least a hundred injuries and dozens of killings were confirmed by the second day of the riots.
In a world in which thousands die tragically every day – from starvation to murder, from disease and neglect – these events might not seem particularly newsworthy. When aren’t there riots in that part of the world? When aren’t innocents killed? It happens every day.
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Haha. I tell you you live in fear of Muslim anger and violence want to limit freedoms because of it (dhimmi) and you call me a dimwit. You Muslim suckcocker.
Please don’t confuse “Western Civilization” with any concept the Phony Preacher has. He is more like a book burning Nazi than any representative idea of Western Civilization.
Perhaps you are not clear but there is a huge difference between “tippy-toeing around forever hoping not to offend” and deliberately shiiting on their heads.
Well, DUH!.
What did you imagine that my point was?
What are the results of the beliefs of Muslims? Murder, for one. Rape, as we have seen with reporter in Egypt.
Let's see, unprovoked attacks on women and children just because they happen to be Jews. Somewhere Hitler is smiling.
Slavery. It wasn't until the '60s that Saudi Arabia outlawed the practice, at least formally. We know for a fact that it still goes on in Africa. For that matter, far more blacks went east than ever came to America.
Poverty, ignorance, an intense sense of victimhood accompanied by an unbelievable mountain of unjustified arrogance.
Islam deserves to be disrespected, for it has done nothing to deserve respect. This is OK in itself. But thenit DEMANDS that respect, which it has not earned, and plans to kill you if you don't give it.
Well, when I become aware that someone wants to kill me, I lose my own inhibitions concerning him.
The rules of engagement have not been happily accepted here since the beginning.
People do all sorts of stupid things but just because they have a legal right to do it does not mean we should support their stupidity especially when it harms our men and mission.
EXCUSE ME, DICKWEED? I SERVED IN BOTH IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN! TAKE YOUR KORANIMAL APPEASING AND BUTT LICKING ELSEWHERE!
Allegra,
We have a live one here!
Very few can resist my charm and winning wit.
I think I also missed the chapter where Jesus called people names when he didn’t agree with them. Did you actually come up with “Minister Moron” all by yourself?
Besides, the Muslims are going to try to kill our troops, regardless. Infinity added to infinity is still no larger, and they hate us infinitely.
I would observe that the Traditional Christian attitude toward Islam (cf. the critique written by St. John of Damascus, who understood Islam very well, having served as Grand Vizier to the Caliph of Damascus during one of those periods when Caliphs cared more about competence than Islamic piety in their court functionaries) is that it is a heresy, not a proper religion in its own right. I would also observe that it is traditional for Christians to burn heretical writings (cf. the treatment of the Acta of the Iconoclastic Synod of 754 by the Seventh Ecumenical Council).
Was it politic for an American to treat the Qu’ran in the way it deserves to be treated according to Christian tradition at a time when America is at war with some Muslims and allied with others? No.
As to “What would Jesus do?” Do you have the discernment to know that the content of the Qu’ran is not the sort of thing that would bring out the whips that drove the moneychangers from the Temple? It’s not so clear. Seeing that the Harps of the Spirit, as we Orthodox call the Fathers of the Ecumenical Councils, thought the Acta of the Synod of 754 should be reduced to ash, doing the same to an heretical text whose adherents have caused more suffering to the Christian people than all the iconoclasts before and after that synod might be exactly what Jesus would do.
I say we take off and nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way that we can be sure.
I believe it really was because of the civilian killings and the taking of photos of the “trophies” by the US servicemen.
That seems to be the only explanation that makes sense. The big problem I have with the alleged Koran burning is that when this was headline news a while back, when this pastor was allegedly receiving phone calls from highly placed officials, when this was in all the news - there wasn't any deaths or mayhem outside the usual background levels of death and mayhem typical of this bunch.
My reaction to the over-reaction of the government and the enemedia is that some other evil thing was taking place over in AF and the administration would need a scapegoat on the shelf ready to use when needed to cover-up something embarrassing to the administration. The hypocrisy was what got me thinking about it. The threat of burning a Koran was supposed to bring down all of Western Civilization by illiterate goat herders and poppy farmers, yet when our military actually torched many private Bibles in AF, there was no alarm or outcry.
When in Kabul, I remember coming back from a restraunt at night and the only residential lighting was by kerosene lantern - and this is AF's most modern city. The rioting was held in the northern provinces which make Fred Flintstone look like George Jettson in comparison. So being that 99.999% of Americans were unaware of this alleged Koran burning last week, how is it that illiterate people who don't have electricity, don't have internet, no television, can't read, speak a mangled form of Dari somehow get news about some nobody in Florida torching a Koran? Furthermore, why is the rioting isolated only to a region of AF when there are far more angry muslims elsewhere who didn't riot yet had far better access to this information than the Afghanis?
Why would the President of AF call-out this Pastor knowing full well that it would cause a riot? The B.S. meter is pegged. The tail wagged the dog, the Karzai made this claim after the fact, on behalf of the US (who know for how much additional $$) to cover-up something else.
With the release of the trophy killing pictures, it is now quite clear. This is all theater. The original attack on the Florida pastor was staging to act as cover for the fallout of this greater than Abu Ghrab scandal. That way when the muzzies would go violent, as expected, Barry wouldn't catch the same heat that "W" received for the non-event in Iraq. The enemedia can now focus the fallout of this scandal on Christians rather than on the Administration, and now can ignore the scandal since the rioting now has "no connection" to the trophy killings.
Blaming the Florida pastor accomplishes several things: makes him a scapegoat, deflects hate to Christianity, makes it look like Christians are the real problem, yet another "Its America's Fault" example, and most important, allows the enemedia to remove the scandal from the front page and tie the rioting to the private sector - not to government policies and practices.
Thanks for the insight.
“unhappy” my butt. I am sure that is your HAPPY conclusion anytime someone has the temerity to call the Neanderthal on their Neanderthalishness.
Read it for yourself. Gibbon was 100% correct. Religious texts predating the Koran by two thousand years or more show more advanced theological understanding. Mo couldn’t even write.
Minister Moron knew very well people would die if word of his stunt was spread to the Middle East.
That noise we hear is of WWII vets spinning in their graves over a 21st century notion thought that some insulting act, insult to the Emperor, newspaper article, racial slur, demeaning to the Japanese, their religion their culture, whatever, might have perhaps exacerbated the mistreatment of POWs captured at Corregidor.
Pretend you don’t get the point if you like it doesn’t make you look better.
I’m surprised more here don’t see this.
If the point is being “covered”, I don’t understand why our female soldiers’ helmets aren’t sufficient cover for the sensibilities of the muslims.
You should change your tag since you do not truly support our troops if you want to make their jobs harder. I, on the other hand, oppose all things which make them harder.
Allah is no “moon god” any more than the Virgin Mary is The Great Mother goddess. He is a twisted and confused version of Jehovah.
But none of that is the issue which is “should we do things which make our mission in Afghanistan more difficult.” Patriots say “no”.
Gee, and it keeps getting pounded and pounded into my head just how violence prone convenience store clerks are too. When will I learn.
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