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Negative Impact of ObamaCare Already Kicking In
Conservative Examiner ^ | 3/24/2010 | Anthony G. Martin

Posted on 03/23/2010 11:57:32 PM PDT by Welshman007

48 hours had not even passed after Congress approved ObamaCare before the negative impact of its provisions began kicking in.

(AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

Remember, the so-called 'benefits' of the program will not begin until 2014. But the fees, taxes, and other surcharges that are essential to the plan go into effect immediately.

This has led to some disturbing consequences just within the last 24 hours.

Karl Denninger via WRSA reported this:

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Politics
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Welshman007
One elderly woman was sent home from the emergency room after the bare minimum of treatment with a fever of 103 degrees. When she was forced to return to the emergency room within 24 hours, due to the fact that she was not adequately treated the first time, the doctor informed her they could not give her care because it was 'too soon after her initial treatment.'

Get this to Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Levin, Coulter.

Tell Palin we've found the death panels by stealth.

One if by land.

Two if by sea.

Three if by Obamacare.

Cheers!

101 posted on 03/24/2010 5:48:40 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Welshman007

bttt


102 posted on 03/24/2010 5:50:20 AM PDT by petercooper (Ignorant Obama Voters: Happy Now?)
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To: Salamander
See if you can find a judge's ruling anywhere that says "health care is a right."

Get a class-action suit to sue Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc. for deprivation of civil rights under color of law, and have the bill ruled unconstitutional.

Or find other sufferers and make a stink.

Best wishes for your recovery & your family situation. g_w

103 posted on 03/24/2010 5:55:47 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
So. 200+ years after fighting off Britain, we have become Britain.

Not yet. We still have cosmetic dentistry.

Cheers!

104 posted on 03/24/2010 5:57:22 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"So I just got a call from my health insurance provider. My family rates are going up $200/month ... $2400/year per employee effective April 1st. Didn't take long after signing to get this s**t going."

Providers do not waste time making calls, they send written notification.

105 posted on 03/24/2010 6:03:23 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Welshman007

But if the elderly lady in the story had been an illegal alien, they would have had to treat her.
This is un-effin’ believable! It’s a gittin’ close to that time, folks!


106 posted on 03/24/2010 6:04:29 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Gator113

“This cruel mess is going to get very ugly, very quickly.

Democrats... damn those heartless bastards.”

Every time I see them on the news cheering about this, I get sick.


107 posted on 03/24/2010 6:11:00 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Welshman007; Cindy; LucyT; HiTech RedNeck; neverdem; decimon; JoeProBono; ...
*PING* to those not already on the thread.

Corroboration of the no-Medicare-readmission-for-30-days (after a fashion) here and here (linked to via Louise Slaughter's webpage, btw!)

Lucy, neverdem, Civ, Smokin' --

In the second link search for '1151' (a section ) and reading down you will find THIS little tidbit:

‘‘(6) LIMITATIONS ON REVIEW.—There shall be no administrative or judicial review under section 1869, section 1878, or otherwise of—
‘‘(A) the determination of base operating DRG payment amounts;
‘‘(B) the methodology for determining the adjustment factor under paragraph
(3), including excess readmissions ratio under paragraph (4)(C),
aggregate payments for excess readmissions under paragraph (4)(A),
and aggregate payments for all discharges under paragraph (4)(B),
and applicable periods and applicable conditions under paragraph (5);
‘‘(C) the measures of readmissions as described in paragraph (5)(A)(ii);
and
‘‘(D) the determination of a targeted hospital under paragraph (8)(B)(i),
the increase in payment under paragraph (8)(B)(ii),
the aggregate cap under paragraph (8)(C)(i),
the hospital-specific limit under paragraph (8)(C)(ii),
and the form of payment made by the Secretary under paragraph (8)(D).

They have exempted this part from judicial review!

This is the KILL GRANNY act as prophesied by Sarah Palin.

Let's tell all our contacts -- see if we can get this to Rush, Hannity, etc.

This needs to go viral, and we need names of people who have been denied care, and gotten sick or worse because of it.

And the Dems CANNOT feign ignorance -- or they wouldn't have exempted the section from judicial review.

(Incidentally, this section should be called the Einsatzgruppe provision, or Himmler by proxy: the chronically sick will be killed off by this method, lowering overall costs, lessening the need for explicit death panels.

And now we now why the aging members of Congress exempted themselves...

NO Cheers, unfortunately.

108 posted on 03/24/2010 6:36:09 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

If the current Congress cannot actually prevent a future Congress from repealing or changing the legislation of a current Congress, even if they so state in their legislation, how can they exempt something they have passed from judicial review and have it stick?

I know they think they can do this, but we have lawyers, too. All judges are not committed zerObots, either.

I doubt any attorney is going to pay attention to being told they cannot bring suit in Federal Court. Could they use the *no standing* rule? Since this legislation affects everyone resident in the nation, how could anyone be denied a hearing on their standing status?

However, if this could become the actual test for redress, I think we might have finally won some converts within the plaintiffs bar.


109 posted on 03/24/2010 7:33:29 AM PDT by reformedliberal ("If it takes a blood bath, let's get it over with." R. Reagan)
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To: Welshman007

HAppening at My Company also.

Our CEO/Owner sent out an email to all employees detailing the healthcare policy and costs associated with it.

We currently have what team Obama calls a “Cadillac” policy — our company provides us Full Family coverage with no deduction from our pay. This policy gives us 100% on just about everything. We have a $10 co-pay and zero deducible. There is no co-pay for prescriptions.

In his letter he let all the employees know the true cost of this wonderful benefit - $1900 per employee per month. He then said that he expects that premium to double when it comes up for renewal. At that point he will have no choice but to drop healthcare coverage for all employees.

He then outlined why he would make that choice:
He can pay upwards of $3000+ a month per employee or he can pay the fine that Obamacare prescribes (up to $3000 per year)

We have 120 employees, so $360,000 a year or $3000 a year. Hmmm That’s a no brainer.

Now, the unintended consequence of Obamacare - not only do we lose our insurance coverage, but BC/BS loses what is currently about $225,000 a year in business (going up to $360,000 or more under obamacare).


110 posted on 03/24/2010 7:44:44 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Guardian Sebastian

I write “Refused” on it and send it back to them.

AARP sucks the life out of seniors.


111 posted on 03/24/2010 8:02:47 AM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my Army Hero grandson and the warrior goddess of the Coasties)
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To: Salamander
Still tough sh*t?

Absolutely. Medicare will determine the care since BC/BS is secondary.

112 posted on 03/24/2010 8:06:47 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Lmo56

My neighbor died a couple years ago from one of those that got infected. Now her hubby can barely keep up with his bills, afraid he might lose his house. She died way too young.


113 posted on 03/24/2010 8:07:32 AM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: Welshman007
I had minor outpatient surgery yesterday. I have to return in two weeks for removal of stitches and examination for any signs of infection or improper healing.

Does this new HellCare revelation mean that my second procedure which is less than 30 days after will not be covered by Medicare?

Leni

114 posted on 03/24/2010 8:09:48 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: All

bttt


115 posted on 03/24/2010 8:41:43 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Only alternative would be pay retail out of pocket (though if he could pony it up, hospital would probably discount for cash on the spot).

Which should, of course, be our goal - to ultimately be self-insured.

116 posted on 03/24/2010 8:45:11 AM PDT by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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To: Welshman007

**the so-called ‘benefits’ of the program will not begin until 2014. But the fees, taxes, and other surcharges that are essential to the plan go into effect immediately.**

Taces

Fees

Fines

ETC.

ETC.


117 posted on 03/24/2010 8:59:30 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: eccentric
” Ban Medicare recipients from receiving follow-up care within 30 days of their initial treatment as part of government-run healthcare.”

obamacare,healthcare,politics,satire

118 posted on 03/24/2010 9:01:01 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salamander; ctdonath2; eccentric
Bill text? They don't need any stinking Bill text except those where they have authorized the HHS Secretary to implement whatever in the Hell rationing/killing Regulations and Standards she feels like at any given moment.

Cordially,

119 posted on 03/24/2010 9:37:08 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: grey_whiskers

thanks gw


120 posted on 03/24/2010 9:45:09 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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