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Show me your papers [! National ID Card !]
American Thinker blog ^ | 3-10-10 | Lee DeCovnick

Posted on 03/13/2010 9:29:38 AM PST by smokingfrog

All United States citizens may be required to carry a biometric I.D. card!

That's not Orwell's Big Brother speaking. Rather Democrat Chuck Schumer (D- New York), and Republican Lindsay Graham (R- South Carolina) have devised new legislation to mandate that every worker carry a government I.D. card to prove his citizenship. The card must be carried every day and may be checked by employers and any governmental authority upon request.

All U.S. citizens would be required to carry an ID cards according to this plan. It's meant to keep companies from hiring illegal immigrants. No matter where you apply for a job, under the plan, you would have to have a card carrying bio-metric information on a microchip. It's like your fingerprints, or a scan of the veins in your hands.

Even the ACLU is not backing this transparent attempt to force a mandatory national I.D. onto 300 million Americans.

We're talking about fingerprinting every single American worker, and that card, in turn, will probably be used not only to work but also to travel, to vote, perhaps even to own a gun.

Senator Graham, in response to these privacy concerns said, "This program would not expand like that." I wouldn't want to call the Senator a liar, but that is a breathtaking level of naivety for a U.S. senator.

National I.D. cards are nothing new, totalitarian regimes revel in the ability to disallow travel, financial transactions, and food distribution for those who don't have the proper papers. A microchip on the card opens the door for the inclusion of non-medical information such as political or union affiliations, criminal or civil judgments, and with the addition of a GPS chip, all travel activity around town and overseas.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aclu; amnesty; banglist; bhoamnesty; bhohealthcare; biometrics; enforcementworks; guncontrol; healthcare; idcard; immigration; lindsaygrahm; obamacare; pelosicare; publicoption; terrorism
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To: Humbucker

If this National ID is enacted, we will have a repeat of WWII. Would you could ask your father what “paperien, bitte” meant to him ... and why he was glad to die to prevent those words from being spoken to you here.


61 posted on 03/13/2010 10:55:12 AM PST by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: Humbucker
Dude - you've hijacked the thread. You are insulting good FReepers and you're overreacting.

And you're about to commit suicide by Mod.

Please chill - we're all on the same side here.

62 posted on 03/13/2010 10:57:04 AM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: smokingfrog

Check The Zero’s papers first!!!


63 posted on 03/13/2010 10:58:24 AM PST by LiteKeeper ("It's the peoples' seat!")
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To: Allegra; Humbucker

I’m really, REALLY trying to give him some slack here. It’s up to him if he takes it.


64 posted on 03/13/2010 10:58:32 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

I was admiring your restraint. I might have already called in the kitties. :)


65 posted on 03/13/2010 11:01:51 AM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Admin Moderator

You deserve the ‘major patience’ award. We’ve been trying to make him understand he’s pushing on an open door, but he’s stuck in some emotional place he can’t seem to get out of!


66 posted on 03/13/2010 11:03:30 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: Humbucker

Sean Penn? Is that you?


67 posted on 03/13/2010 11:09:48 AM PST by pollyshy
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To: Humbucker

If the critcism is accurate, it is not ‘ad hominem’ by definition.

Sorry for your loss but your Dad would have recognized national ID requirements as a foundation of a police-state.


68 posted on 03/13/2010 11:21:10 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: smokingfrog
I will not comply.

Period.

69 posted on 03/13/2010 11:22:10 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Humbucker
Ok I have to just say a couple of things here. One, neither the heroes or the villains of WW2 have a monopoly on evil or greatness. It is a mistake to compare everything in such a way. Enough with the sacred cows already.

The far left in this country has already waged a genocide on the unborn since 1973 over 5 times larger than Hitler did in WW2. They are on the verge of passing universal health-care that will officially make the lives of US citizens up for review as state owned property on a cost benefit analysis.

So I think the comparisons are more than fair.

70 posted on 03/13/2010 11:25:09 AM PST by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: newfreep

Thanks. I can see! I thought it was MY eyes! LOL.


71 posted on 03/13/2010 11:32:34 AM PST by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: smokingfrog

Lindsey Graham needs a primary challenge.


72 posted on 03/13/2010 11:54:16 AM PST by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Humbucker
WOW! You left-wing socialists simply have no clue and deny the reality of nazi/socialists being the same.

As Milton Friedman said and I paraphrase, "In the history of mankind, left-wing socialism ALWAYS fails." Only an idiot would continue to follow that failed path.

74 posted on 03/13/2010 12:06:32 PM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Humbucker

Buh-bye.


75 posted on 03/13/2010 12:09:08 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: smokingfrog; ExTexasRedhead

Not this crap again. We just defeated it a couple of years ago.

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76 posted on 03/13/2010 12:26:28 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Allegra

>>>And you’re about to commit suicide by Mod.<<<

ZOTTED already - too bad - NOT!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/~humbucker/


77 posted on 03/13/2010 12:39:28 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Hey zero, It is NOT Bush's fault anymore.)
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To: Domandred

But you can’t use it for ID. Ever wondered about that? You have to have it to get a Driver’s License but you can’t use it for ID. We can not take your birth certificate or SS card for ID but we can take your Driver’s License that you got with the other forms.


78 posted on 03/13/2010 1:29:04 PM PST by mom aka the evil dictator
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To: mom aka the evil dictator

Yea I was having problems wrapping my head around that when I opened up my latest bank account (first new one after 9/11).

Had to show SSN (the card itself, not just the number) to open account, but won’t accept it as a form of ID...that doesn’t make sense. Either take it as ID or don’t make me give it to you. One or the other, not this grey “we need it but it’s not an ID” crap.

Had 3 state ID’s, (DL, CCL, and standard ID), three major credit cards, SS card, work ID badge, hunting license, fishing license, and my insurance card. Four pictures and eleven total with full first, middle and last names that matched my state ID’s.

Only thing they would accept as a second form of ID was my Costco membership card (/boggle) because that one had a picture on it (but so did my work ID), but only first and last name and the picture has faded so now it just looks like a smudge.


79 posted on 03/13/2010 1:50:47 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Domandred

Like you couldn’t walk into Costco and give them a totally bogus name. According to regulations I could accept the DL, the work ID, the hunting and fishing licenses, the Costco card and the insurance card but no go on the credit cards and SS card. I could also take a school ID, your passport (from any country), current lease or mortgage, vehicle registration or insurance, a Military ID and voter registration. Only one of them must have a photo. All of this so you can rent a PO box! I have been known to take a CCW for ID, state issued after all.


80 posted on 03/13/2010 2:20:43 PM PST by mom aka the evil dictator
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