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What's Glenn Beck Up To? Something Big, He Says
The Atlantic ^ | 10/16/09 | Marc Ambinder

Posted on 10/15/2009 11:23:27 PM PDT by American Dream 246

What's Glenn Beck Up To? Something Big, He Says Hey -- we like conspiracies too! Here's one, with some fact attached to it: conservative media icon Glenn Beck is planning something big -- very big -- for 2010. On his radio show yesterday, Beck alluded to a major nationwide mobilization project of some kind that he and some colleagues will soon announce. "If you think the 9/12 project was something...you ain't seen nothing yet," he said (roughly -- I didn't have a pen handy when he uttered this). Beck's 9/12 project brought tens of thousands of his ideological compatriots to rallies in D.C., and thousands more at rallies across the country. The event, he insisted, was "non-political" -- about sending a message to leaders that the feeling of American solidarity the day after 9/11/01 was worth fighting for. But Beck, at the time, also announced a follow-on project, "2010: In Or Out," asking people to determine whether their elected representatives support a five-part pledge. That was the first step, he implied, of several to come.

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To: SWAMPSNIPER
How do you think we should stop the leftward slide of the GOP then? Should we just let them go, dragging us along?

We need to let the fury of our cause be turned on the RINOs. We must fight with all of our might to put up good candidates in their places and do everything we possibly can to get them in. Beck and others need to expose them for who they are. I think Beck would do a service if he would begin to expose these people and how they have voted. In fact, I think he needs to make it a regular spot on his program to put each candidate up for view and show what they have been doing in Congress.

We need to decide as Conservatives who is the best candidate for President asap and start working for him/her right away. We should not wait until the "usual" timing of most elections to come out with our Candidate. We need to get that person out almost right away and make people know the person and what they stand for at every turn. Obama constantly campaigns and so should our candidate. The candidate should counter everything that the communist left is trying to do with his/her perspective. Let the American people know that there is a choice and who they could be have for President. Make them want this person as soon as possible.

We have to work fast and hard to circumvent and overtake the "good old boys club" part of the Republican Party. Conservative Republicans need to act as almost a force within the Republican Party, one that cannot be stopped.

41 posted on 10/16/2009 3:43:07 AM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: papertyger; Rome2000
I think we should form an organization to withhold money from the Republican National Committee to hold all contributions in trust to be released to candidates as approved by the board of trustees.

We should try to get possession of the Republican National Committee as suggested by Rome2000 in his post #36.

Before January 2011, we can bombard the national committee and representatives with demands etc.

We can organize a conservative branch of the Republican Party to vote as a bloc in primaries.

we can try to herd cats and get conservatives to demonstrate against rinos much as conservatives protested at tea parties. This should be done at the time of critical votes and during primaries.

There is much that can be done to make our weight felt. I'm sure others have much better ideas.


42 posted on 10/16/2009 3:51:27 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: American Dream 246

I hope it is a New March On Washington and as Sucessful as the first one was I hope a Leader materializes who will be a Player in the process.
There are a Lot of people who fear they are witnessing the demise of our Country that was evidenced by the Washington turn out ,but Millions of people marching and calling talk shows vents some anger, it really accomplishes nothing if you dont have someone in the process who can carry the ideas to fruition.
It May be to late anyway if Health care reform the Marxists are formulating passes and they parlay that into getting Cap and trade passed also we are screwed ,the only thing you will be marching for is to mete out retribution to the traitors who passed it and the perpetrators wont care anyway they will have won the war.
I am Praying that when the final Monster of a Health reform Bill shows it face the American People Rise up like they did when the Immigration reform came up. That will only happen if ALL the Conservatie Talkers on TV and Radio step out of their non cheerleading mode and Implore the people to act ,it may roil some the wrong way but lets face it some times you have to LEAD people not just act as a Venting Chamber and let Millions go in a million different directions


43 posted on 10/16/2009 4:01:44 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: papertyger; uncitizen; Rome2000; RushLake
In addition RushLake has a series of pretty good ideas outlined in his post # 28.


44 posted on 10/16/2009 4:03:11 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: American Dream 246

I hope it is a New March On Washington and as Sucessful as the first one was I hope a Leader materializes who will be a Player in the process.
There are a Lot of people who fear they are witnessing the demise of our Country that was evidenced by the Washington turn out ,but Millions of people marching and calling talk shows vents some anger, it really accomplishes nothing if you dont have someone in the process who can carry the ideas to fruition.
It May be to late anyway if Health care reform the Marxists are formulating passes and they parlay that into getting Cap and trade passed also we are screwed ,the only thing you will be marching for is to mete out retribution to the traitors who passed it and the perpetrators wont care anyway they will have won the war.
I am Praying that when the final Monster of a Health reform Bill shows it face the American People Rise up like they did when the Immigration reform came up. That will only happen if ALL the Conservatie Talkers on TV and Radio step out of their non cheerleading mode and Implore the people to act ,it may roil some the wrong way but lets face it some times you have to LEAD people not just act as a Venting Chamber and let Millions go in a million different directions


45 posted on 10/16/2009 4:03:19 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Bellflower
I have it on good authority that some of the local "GOP leaders" laugh at me behind my back. I'm guilty of not being wealthy, so I must be dumb too!

Some of them have made their money in ways that would shame me, I wouldn't trust them to walk across my yard unescorted!

We either deny them all support, or we hang them, which idea do you like?

46 posted on 10/16/2009 4:05:23 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: nathanbedford
I think you may be correct that GB is attempting to marginalize the Republican Party as it is presently constituted, but look at the job he's doing marginalizing the entire Democrat apparatus. Beck has become a lead man in pointing out that party labels appear not to matter any more, that what counts is liberal charlatan utopianism vs conservative realism (mostly ;O)).

We could be seeing a major realignment. There are too many things coming out of the White House these days, too many to link to it's so overwhelming to anybody breathing air just how crooked and devious these tyrannical pricks are.

The racist attack strategery from the Soros minions and the compliant media is failing by the hour. Zero's own constant campaigning on trivia, the wtf factor on his domestic policy and passive/agressive attempts to vote "present" on foreign policy are alarming a growing number of people, even some of our "free riders" are turning on him, although not for the same reasons we are.

GB's street theater/puppit show is classic in-your-face Alinsky back at ya. Abbie Hoffman might not like Beck's politics if he were still breathing but he'd love his schtick.

47 posted on 10/16/2009 4:10:05 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: Lily4Jesus

Lily, I join you in prayer for Glenn Beck. May the Lord Jesus protect him and send his angels to camp around him and his family. Lord bless him and please open the eyes of the people that they may see the truth. The truth shall set all of us free.


48 posted on 10/16/2009 4:15:36 AM PDT by rep-always
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To: sonic109

Target please?
at what will the revolution be directed?
i wish i knew.
who are we gonna go after?
our enemies are not wearing red coats this time


49 posted on 10/16/2009 4:32:59 AM PDT by LibraTango (hithvptv)
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To: LibraTango
our enemies are not wearing red coats this time

They are not difficult to identify.

50 posted on 10/16/2009 4:34:23 AM PDT by riri (http://rationaljingo.blogspot.com/)
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To: riri

true enough-but this time there are millions of them


51 posted on 10/16/2009 4:38:16 AM PDT by LibraTango (hithvptv)
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To: metesky
I agree with much of your post. I would like to set forth the very first post I wrote about Glenn Beck which shows many similarities to your point of view. Here is the first post from more than a month ago:

I had never heard of Glenn back until after the election yet he is closest to my views of any radio talk jock today. More than any other radio personality, even including Dennis Prager, Beck thinks thematically rather than episodically, that is, reacting to events. He clearly sees the threat to the nation and pulls together the threads to explain the motivation and methods of the Obama administration. He explores in depth, for example, the relationship between Obama and Acorn and the influence of George Soros and the implications for American liberty and does so in a way that makes the whole pattern plain and understandable.

For those of us who have been calling Obama a Manchurian Marxist since before the election, all of this is very gratifying. That is not to say that Limbaugh is not brilliant at skewering Obama. Hannity is a great chronicaler of the sins of the administration. Levin also operates thematically and is implacable devoted to liberty and reacts with repugnance to stateism, but he vitiates his credibility with pointless and excessive humiliation of his callers.

On first impression one would not detect that Glenn Beck has a extremely facile mind. He is probably as bright as Levin and carries a great deal of charisma and an unassuming boy next-door kind of likability. In my judgment, Glenn Beck's greatest liability is what I detect to be a tendency towards bipolar excess. A recovering alcoholic, he might be what they describe as on a "dry drunk." This has nothing whatever to do with the quality of this analysis but it does have to do with his emotional stability. I hope and trust that he can `maintain a true course because he represents a very valuable voice for conservatism/libertarianism.

More, he puts together the whole package and illustrates the very real multifaceted threat to our liberties presented by the Manchurian Marxist.

I do take issue with Beck on his persistent and unnecessary lashing out against Republicans when he equates them with Democrats. No one should ask me to take a back seat in the game of criticizing the Republicans including George Bush. I have my posts which I can produce showing that I predicted the defeat in 2006 because the Republicans departed from conservative values. I took a lot of flack for predicting the defeats in 2006 and 2008. For a long time my favorite slap at the Republicans was, "the only thing we learned from the election of 2008 is that we have learned nothing from the election of 2006." I think the party has since learned much of the lesson, although that is not to predict that they will hold fast to their rediscovered truths. But as flawed as the Republicans are, they are infinitely preferable to the modern Democrat party which is infected with a virus of stateism to a degree that it constitutes a real and mortal threat to our constitutional republic.

I part with Beck because he engages in moral relativism when it comes to equating Republicans and their declensions with the truly dangerous threat presented by Democrats. It tells me that Beck misunderstands the nature of the electoral system in America when he tells his listeners to vote for independents. America operates on a two-party system and any deviation from that convention will bring electoral woe to the deviant. I consider that this foolishness is the result of a bent toward libertarianism. The point is not to have fidelity to a business called the Republican Party, the point is that conservatism needs a vehicle to wield political power and there is no viable option exists except the Republican Party which conservatism can exploit to save the Republic.

Otherwise Beck is a great talent and very, very sound.


52 posted on 10/16/2009 4:39:11 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Good, well thought out post, nathanbedford. Found myself nodding yes through the entirety.

The question is how does the conservative movement seize the Republican Party and exploit that vehicle to bring conservative governance to the country and save the republic from Obama?

I'm no strategist, but I think at least part of the answer is to question the form of representation the states and individuals are getting. It seems to me that most people don't recognize the harm that the 17th Amendment and the capping of the number of representatives have done to the dispersal of federal power. IMO, these two things are exactly what has led to the centralization of power in DC.

Too me it all leads back to the original causes. The states and the people should both be bellowing,

"NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!"

53 posted on 10/16/2009 4:39:21 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: nathanbedford
I never liked Beck on the radio, but think he's much more effective on the tube. I agree on the stability issue to the nth degree, though.

Your take on 2006/8 elections pretty much mirrors mine and I too have been a Bush critic, especially on the money issues.

54 posted on 10/16/2009 4:51:57 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: nathanbedford
But that is not what Glenn Beck is proposing, I don't think. I might be wrong but every indication is that he is looking to establish a third-party movement.

I get the same feeling.

It seems to me that his strategy so far has been to persuade conservative Democrats, Libertarians and somnolent, politically detached conservatives by distancing himself from the Republican party, acknowledging the visceral dislike these groups harbor against Republicans.

I agree with you that this could be very dangerous. There are a few (very few) Republicans in Congress who are attempting to fight a rear guard action virtually alone and they are at least a kernel. The times are indeed too dangerous to attempt a serious third-party movement right now.

Better to take the rickety old Republican house, shore up the foundation, repair the roof and move back in.

We can deal with the new paint and wallpaper when the wolves are driven off the front porch.

55 posted on 10/16/2009 4:58:38 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
Well put.


56 posted on 10/16/2009 5:03:36 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Rome2000; nathanbedford

“These people are card carrying marxists and proud of it, secure in the knowledge that the GOP country clubbers are not up for a fight lest they be called McCarthyites. This has to stop”.

“I would wager that there are some very nervous establishment Republicans right now.”
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Well, if they are (nervous) their silence is deafening.
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The very idea that self-proclaimed communists and socialists can find prominence in this administration and in its party, should be the starting point for every Republican candidate.

AND YET THEY SAY NOTHING! WHY?

Every time a Dem even hints at a “you’re a racist” comment, the immediate response should be a symphonic, “We have a problem with color alright, but it’s not black. It’s RED!


57 posted on 10/16/2009 5:10:31 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: RushLake
A bump to your post, especially this part:

1.) it is important to vote in primaries and encourage like minded people to show up for those elections to try to assure that the best Republican wins in those arenas.

2.) Never ever donate money directly to Republican Party organizations, they share it with RINOs, but primarily pay for their staffs, offices, and solicitors. Mrs. RushLake and I give directly to specific candidates. We're not rich, but we try to target deserving conservatives like Marco Rubio, Tim Walberg, Mike Rogers.

If a way could be found to encourage everyone who cares about the future to donate in such a manner that could mean a lot more money going where it should.

3.) Monitor the people we donate to as suggested above. If they screw up, they're done next trip out. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance, I read that somewhere.

58 posted on 10/16/2009 5:16:45 AM PDT by Humbug (hmm mmm mmmm)
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To: thouworm
I think you insightfully identified that which has neutered the Republican Party in your last paragraph. I've been posting ad nauseum on these threads that all politics in America is racial. I think that is how Obama got elected and that is how Obama preserves much of his immunity from criticism.

In my about page and talk about use of the name and avatar as one way to fight against the Democrats playing the race card.

One need only consider what is happening to Rush Limbaugh right before our eyes to know the treacherous power of this libel so often resorted to by the left. If Rush Limbaugh can be defeated in his quest to give somebody else his money, it is understandable why mere politicians shrink from saying anything that would focus liberal limelight on them and cause themselves to be the object of race baiting.


59 posted on 10/16/2009 5:22:27 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
It is my view that the Republic has never been under such a threat to the very structure of our constitutional system since the Civil War. We are in a mortal struggle for the liberty of our children.

If we lose the 2010 election-that is if we do not severely dent the Democrats hold on the majority-we might never be able to reverse the tide. If we do not unhorse Obama in 2012, it is more likely than not that the Republic will become unrecognizable to Americans of my generation.


Nathan, Thank you for your well considered posts. We conservatives are good at some things and not so good at others. We need to recognize that so we will take advantage of our strengths and compensate for our weaknesses.

In honest company I think we can discuss that we are pretty darn good at discussions, well thought out ideas and debate. Witness the over ten year success of Free Republic and talk radio's boom.

Though we have the record of the Reagan Revolution and the Contract for America and other successes we have shown an inertia against organization and street level political work, especially within the Republican party.

Look at how the hard left took over the Democratic party. They attacked hard and got rid of the Scoop Jacksons and Zell Millers and Norm Colemans. They fought tooth and nail to get Obama elected. They had all the legislation pre-written for when he was elected and boasted of it before the election.

If we are worth our talk and our words we need to get out and do the hard work of transforming the Republican party. It will not be given to us. We have to take it back and fight hard to do it. We have to fight as hard as the left did and harder.

We need to join the organizing committees and become delegates and organizers. We need to become election judges. Take the day off work and drive people to the polls. Get rid of the RINOs by working for good candidates and getting them elected instead. Work hard and be smart. Work the phones for a candidate you can believe in. Become a candidate. Get out there and fight.

We need to join and infiltrate our way into the party apparatus. We need to network and recognize each other so we can see who our fellow conservatives are doing the same thing and help them out even though they may not agree on our favorite color or brand of beer.

And when the old guard won't let us in we push in. We force our way in the door. We don't take no for an answer. We get up off our fat, blovating asses and do something.

It will be dirty and uncomfortable and we will bloody our knuckles. It will be hard work. It will be as hard as Nathaniel Greene or Daniel Morgan had it during the Revolutionary War. Look at what they gave to something they believed in.

There is a level of unremitting, steely determination we need to muster that will take us though to win this fight.

Nathan is right. This is no ordinary fight. It is possible to fail and to lose this country. The left is deadly serious. We have to be even more determined and harder working than they are.

We have to take over the Republican party like John Paul Jones took over the Serapis. We cannot hold back or shrink from getting our hands dirty or doing something unfamiliar. We can do this. We can take back the Republican party in order to save America. We have to do this or we will lose America.

Mr Sol
60 posted on 10/16/2009 5:29:26 AM PDT by Solar Wind
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