Posted on 09/21/2009 11:32:45 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
Let this post be fair warning Leo Donofrio is now interested in the birth certificate so that we can finally prove Obama was born in Hawaii and stop the never ending circus surrounding BIGFOOT an official long form birth certificate for President Obama.
The nation faces a crucial legal question:
How can a person who admits to having been born a British citizen governed at birth by British law be a natural born citizen of the United States?
This is a very serious legal question. Obama's father was never a US citizen and was never permanently domiciled in the US. The leading Supreme Court decision in Wong Kim Ark indicates that the native born son of an alien is not natural born. There is no conspiracy theory attached to this question. Let's state it another way:
Can a person who is at birth a dual citizen be considered a natural born citizen for purposes of meeting the Constitutions requirements to be POTUS?
That is in no way a conspiracy theory. The US State department web site - now run by Obama tells us that dual citizens owe allegiance to both nations and that while on the soil of the foreign nation that nation has a greater claim to the person than the US. It is certainly not trivial for US citizens to ask whether dual citizenship at birth means a person is not a natural born citizen of the US.
But as long as the never ending search for Bigfoot continues to obscure the real legal question, the true issue here will not only be attached to the conspiracy theory, it will be ridiculed as well.
Because of the conundrum, this blog will now also be concerned with an investigation into the vital records of President Obama as well as an intense focus upon the activities of the Hawaii Department of Health and the Hawaii Office of Information Practices. I hope to one day put these officials under oath and cross-examine them thoroughly.
I have always believed that Obama was born in Hawaii and I expect this investigation will reveal that he was. Upon proving that he was born in Hawaii, we may uncover details which indicate that Obama and Hawaii government officials purposely used the birth certificate issue to distract the nation from his British birth problems. If a smokescreen can be made clear, the nation will better comprehend the Constitutional blasphemy inherent in the 2008 POTUS election and the current White House resident.
Should our investigation prove that he wasnt born in Hawaii, I will be very surprised, but I am certainly open to that conclusion.
I have written this post as a preview to some very interesting research documents and letters issued by the State of Hawaii which have not been made public yet. I will be making those public very soon as they are the product of researchers I am working with. Stay tuned. Its going to get interesting.
OK, you’re accepting the word of the paper, even though we know that they fail to print the truth day by day.
I simply do not accept the word of any news medium WO corroboration.
That's what YOU say. I asked what part of the constitution says that.
A document examiner will not authenticate an image. That's all she says.
If you want to offer a cite to something, go right ahead. But I’ve been over and over this with the birthers for months. It’s not me being thick-headed. You can see right on this thread where some of them refuse to accept what is written in black and white.
The lack of savvy in taking what is on microfiche in HI as absolute gospel truth is troubling since it is so easy to alter what the microfiche record reflects AND because neither paper lists the birth of the Nordyke TWINS born within hours of Barry. Add to that the fact that the Nordyke twins’ father listed for purposes of his wifes prenatal care his address as the clinic addy on the same street as the supposed Obama residence and we have the even easier means to alter the microfiche records of the two papers. Only corroboration of the record will make the microfiche records genuine ... the absence of the Nordyke twins, born to a Doctor on the Islands is most disturbing since that would have been a far more noteworthy event than the baby born to the underaged daughter of a banker on the Islands ... and the twins are not listed in any of the papers which followed for four weeks after their birth. Frankly, when someone makes the microfiche imagery an axiom to their argument for Barry’s place and time of birth, I immediately see them as a shill or ill informed and satisfied to remain such.
And I forgot to mention that the Nordyke twins’ BC numbers are lower not higher than the one claimed for Barry who was born hours before them supposedly, at the same hospital.
Perhaps you missed this:
2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit posted on the internet from Ron Polarik, [PDF] who has declined to provide his name because of a number of death threats he has received. After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the Daily Kos, the Obama Campaign, Factcheck.org and others
The answer to that would be no. He could lose his citizenship only if he gave it up himself, and only as an adult.
He also couldn't meet them because he wasn't born in Panama.
And where exactly in the Constitution does it say that?
And time and time again, I see you refusing to accept the solid backup of the constitution contained in the Federalist Papers. The true meaning of "Natural Born Citizen" is clearly given therein, and you refuse to accept it.
There are no mysteries in the constitution; they all are resolved through the Federalist Papers, Websters 1828 Dictionary, Black's, and the Encyclopedia Britanica, but you don't like what they say.
The constitution has no glossary; the answer is in the letters exchanged between Madison and Jay regarding that particular clause. Facts are so uncomfortable!
Well, that should be an interesting one to watch.
“Facts are so uncomfortable!”
Ditto. It get’s tiring playing with these obots.
[You must understand that Stanley Ann Dunham, left America to go to Kenya]
You know this how? Is this provable fact? Or birther legend?
Time and time again, I've seen you and the others refuse to accept the clear explanation from a ruling of the United States Supreme Court, because you don't like what it says.
Lucas Smith provided a Birth Certificate to the courts that he secured personally in Mombasa, Kenya, which is in Orly Taitz presentation to the courts on Oct 5, 2009
I presume that for Obama to be born in Mombasa, Kenya
His mother would have to be present.
It is yet to be determined if it is a genuine document or not. It does not contradict the Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth, as Orly Taitz now has in her possession, the page 11 of the divorce decree which is Obama’s COLB from Hawaii.
It will be interesting to see what happens..
YOu are a real scammer!
How does a devoted Obummanite manage to stay here lying, deflecting, and dissembling?
The SCOTUS has never ruled on this because there is nothing to rule on. Obama is the first pretender to pull a coup on the whitehouse.
Could you possibly be referring to the letter between John Jay and George Washington dated July 25, 1787? If so, then can you point out where Jay defines natural-born citizen?
If you are, in fact, referring to a letter or letters between Jay and Madison where the definition of natural-born citizen was discussed then could you please give the dates and/or links?
Facts are so uncomfortable!
Indeed.
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