Posted on 09/19/2009 2:08:19 PM PDT by Tina Grazier
There is a poll question at this site that asks what do you believe, Evolution or Creationism.
Where do you stand in the Creation/Evolution Debate
What follows is a description for the four choices available. There are also three other poll questions. Freep them all, there seems they expire at midnight tonight, so lets freep them.
A CREATIONIST:
A creationist is a person who rejects the theory of evolution and believes instead that the each species on earth was put here by a Divine Being. A Creationist might accept "micro-evolution" (changes in the form of a species over time based on natural selection), but rejects the notion that one species can-- over time-- become another species.
It seems a bit weird in the way it asks but I think we are all smart enough to find a category that fits our belief, I am an Intelligent Design guy myself. and I realize there are those who agree with me but not on every aspect that I do, but it is the only category i would be in.
Continue reading the explanation for each choice here.
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There that pretty much tells you how I voted on all four questions.
I think there’s an indisputable case for intelligent design.
So the age of the Earth is 6000 years. Let me ponder that for a while. Well, to accept that, I have to dispense with reason, logic and all manner of evidence that says that the Earth is 4 billion years old. So T-Rex co-existed with the cavemen. Sure, I saw it in a movie, 1 Million Years B.C. with Raquel Welch. Must be true.
Already posted: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2343639/posts
No, no, all that so-called "evidence" was placed here by a Divine Being to confound the minds of men.
Well, at least Raquel Welch was placed here to confound the minds of men. That part worked, anyway... :)
Disclaimer: I don't participate in "crevo" threads as a matter of principle and self-preservation. So I'm not actually participating in the thread per se. But your comment was too good to pass up.
I am a literal creationist. God created the Earth and everything in it in six days and rested on the seventh.
I am a literal creationist. God created the Earth and everything in it in six days and rested on the seventh.
God created the Earth,let it evolve and now this planet is His favorite sitcom.
Humor is one of His creations also.
Tina,
Glad you posted this, so I could participate in the poll (I picked the “young earth” answer), though I’m not a solid young earther by any means.
The categories were rather flawed. For example, I would have picked “Intelligent Design,” but I completely reject the description, “May or may not have been the God of the Bible.”
Nor do I believe in evolution as God’s means of creating.
I have no idea how old the earth is. And I believe that modern “science” is so fundamentally biased on the issue that I’ll never find out in this lifetime. For example, think of Piltdown man, Peking man, Java man, Nebraska man, etc. All were the worst hoaxes, but the scientific community bought them for years, and in some cases decades. Why? Because some hoaxer fed them exactly what they wanted, and they fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
And they are even more biased today.
By the way, I see global warming in the same vein: it is the result of a profound degree of bias and dishonesty. Like Darwinism, man-caused global warming is a religious view rather than a scientific one.
My view of creation:
God said, “Let there be light,” and space, matter, energy, and time exploded into being from nothing - just as the big bang and subsequent research verifies.
After either shaping the heavens/earth or allowing the laws of physics he created in his singularity to shape them, God created the first living cells and simple organisms.
When there were enough of these, he created the vegetation.
When there was enough of this, he created the first animals.
And then God created man and woman.
I believe that God created every distinct phyla, and then allowed nature to take its course. God created every kind of thing as a distinct act of creation, and said, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth.”
6,000 years? 6 billion? I don’t know.
I know I don’t trust the people who have been trying to shove “global warming” down my throat for 20+ years to tell me. I know that I don’t trust the “scientists” who gave Al Gore a Nobel Prize for “science” for his work in a blatant propaganda film to tell me.
Can you see him sitting up there saying, “They tried to combat algae with flying carp? ROFL!”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/26/eveningnews/main523372.shtml
“I think there’s an indisputable case for intelligent design.”
Would you kindly explain to me how bubonic plague, cancer, diabetes, psychopathy, pedophillia, killer tidal waves, hemmorhoids, fever blisters, gangrene, small pox, drought, blizzards, floods, volcanic erruptions, maleria, gamma ray bursts, birth defects, and all manner of nasty afflictions and natural distasters that just want to kill us is anything other than STUPID DESIGN?
“I think there’s an indisputable case for intelligent design.”
Would you kindly explain to me how bubonic plague, cancer, diabetes, psychopathy, pedophillia, killer tidal waves, hemmorhoids, fever blisters, gangrene, small pox, drought, blizzards, floods, volcanic erruptions, maleria, gamma ray bursts, birth defects, and all manner of nasty afflictions and natural distasters that just want to kill us is anything other than STUPID DESIGN?
You seem angry.
If humans have free will, why wouldn’t there be trials for us?
If this was Heaven, there wouldn’t be these things.
This is not Heaven. There will be problems that we humans need to try to solve...for intance...there’s no more bubonic plague, right?
Do you believe in God?
I am a Christian who believes that there is absolutely no conflict between evolution and Christianity, and I am hardly alone. I therefore find it objectionable that options 1 and 4 are considered to be separate and distinct. It doesn’t really matter, though; YEC beliefs have been successfully kept out of science classes.
God created “evolution”.
“This is not Heaven. There will be problems that we humans need to try to solve...for intance...there’s no more bubonic plague, right?”
I am just saying that an intelligent designer would would have worked all these kinks out, not left it for someone else to fix five hundred years and 100 million gruesome deaths later. There’s no more bubonic plague. Glory be to scientists and doctors. They worked out a cure.
When you talk about heaven you are changing the subject from intelligent design to faith.
Well, if we’re not allowed to talk about faith in the framework of intelligent design, then the conversation can’t go very far.
This is not Heaven. There will be problems that we humans need to try to solve...for intance...there’s no more bubonic plague, right?
I don’t see your point, even if you were correct. As it happens, you are incorrect.
http://www.infoplease.com/cig/dangerous-diseases-epidemics/bubonic-plague.html
“Bubonic plague is still prevalent in more than 20 countries. In the United States, the last rat-borne epidemic occurred in Los Angeles in 1924-1925. Since then sporadic cases have occurred, mostly in western states. Sources of cases today are wild rodents, especially squirrels, prairie dogs, and other burrowing rodents.
“Plague is found in parts of Russia and China and regularly occurs in Madagascar. Severe outbreaks have occurred in recent years in Kenya, Tanzania, Zaire, Mozambique, and Botswana. Plague also has been reported in western and northern Africa. In South America, plague is found in parts of Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, and Brazil. There is no plague in Australia, and Europe has not seen a case for more than 50 years...” “...The genome displays many irregularities due to genetic exchange with other microorganisms, and many of its genes appear to have been acquired from other bacteria and viruses. The evidence suggests that plague has undergone large-scale genetic change leading to rapid evolution, which makes it able to adapt to survive in many different environments.”
“As it happens, you are incorrect.”
You’re right, I’m wrong. And I love the way you phrased that as if we were at a podium debating.
Polio...how’s that? Probably still not completely gone, but able to be prevented by a vaccine?
Other diseases eradicated or preventable?
You get my drift...
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