Posted on 07/16/2009 1:23:18 PM PDT by APRPEH
"Right now, the Obama Administration is the strongest, if you will, and the greatest adversary that Israel has." Jay Shapiro Show - 12 July 09 'The Real US-Israel Relationship' - Israel National Radio
Increasingly, it is becoming apparent that the US President, Barack Hussein Obama no longer has any apprehension in hiding the fact that he is not a friend of Israel.
Monday's meeting with "Top Jewish Organizational Leaders" hand-picked for passivity, (as pointed out in the Leibler article below) further supports the notion that Obama is unashamedly and openly anti-Israel. Obama wants no opposition to his opinion that Yosh is the biggest obstacle to peace and wants support for that position by the lefties who voted for him. The idea that "settlements" are the biggest obstacle to peace also is a surrender to the false notion that Israel was required to withdraw from all of Yosh in any of the previous "negotiations" or treaties.
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I'm not seeing any pro-Egypt threads hereabouts.
Do they deserve praise for doing NOTHING too?
Listen buster, since you don’t seem to get what people are trying to explain to you in this thread, I’ll try a different approach. How about this:
1948, Israel Independence War = NO American troops on the ground
1956, Suez War = NO American troops on the ground
1967, Six Day War = NO American troops on the ground
1969-1970, War of Attrition = NO American troops on the ground
1973, Yom Kippur War = NO American troops on the ground
1982, First Lebanon War = NO American troops on the ground
1987-1991, First Intifada = NO American troops on the ground
2000-2009+, Second Intifada = NO American troops on the ground
2006, Second Lebanon War = NO American troops on the ground
Now is it just me, or is there a pattern forming here?
If you mean because there’s something ironic about saying that Israel should go fight in Iraq even though the U.S. doesn’t want them there, just to prove they are true allies, then I sort of get your connection.
Are you really going to state with a straight face that it is Israel's fault that they are not participating in the Afghanistan war? How do you know they wouldn't help if requested?
Where is your criticism for past and present administrations for not asking Israel to help?
I hate it when a thread degenerates into an “Israel: Right or Wrong?” discussion. It happened over on Delphi a few years back, when the Israelis sent around a bus that had been blown up by a suicide bomber, and I started a thread about it because my church had it on display for a weekend.
High Volume.
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How well do you think the Arab Muslims would have dealt with having Israeli troops on Arab soil?
Just to refresh my memory of what a great ally they are.
For one thing, they've been one of the best and most consistent suppliers of invaluable intelligence that we've used for many years.
For your information Israel wanted to participate in Gulf 1 but they were rejected as counterproductive to building a coalition. Israel was not happy about the exclusion.
Let me ask you this, how many US troops are stationed in Israel? How many in Europe? How many fought or were stationed to save Europe from WW1,WW2,USSR? And then ask whether the European contributions to Iraq and Afghanistan pay for US cost in blood and treasure.
Next ask yourself why the US under Pres Bush wanted to build a missile shield for Europe to protect against Iran nukes. Are you under the delusion that the only country threatened by Iran nukes is Israel?
What’s “Yosh?”
I thought it’s Yesha.
No, I just don't see Israel as all that vital.
Ironically, a decade later in 1991, then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney gave a photograph of the bombed Osirak reactor to Major General David Ivry, the man who had commanded the Israeli air force during the attack, on which he wrote “with thanks and appreciation for the outstanding job [you] did on the Iraqi Nuclear Program in 1981 which made our job much easier in Desert Storm.”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=30946
I just don’t see Europe as all that vital. Europe has been a huge liability to us. Israel is damn cheap for what they give us. Stop looking at foreign aide and ask yourself how much of our defense budget is Europe.
I’m going to answer this as if you are as stupid as you are pretending to be.
Arabs will not cooperate in any venture Israel is in. Israel has offered and been rejected. Even Israeli reporters were not allowed to embed from Kuwait like all other journalists at the start of the Iraq war.
Now get lost.
Look, n00b, you posted to me, I responded.
Take your "get lost" and suppositorize yourself.
If I’m a noob you’re over the hill. I think the arteries to your brain have sclerotized.
:’) Yeah, it’ll happen once in a while, even here.
it was ‘yesha’ until the withdrawal. with G-d’s help it will be again soon. ‘Yosh is abbreviated Yehuda and Shomron. ‘Yesha’ included Gaza.
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