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Israel's Greatest Adversary
APRPEH ^ | 24 Tammuz 5769/ 16 July 2009 | APRPEH

Posted on 07/16/2009 1:23:18 PM PDT by APRPEH

"Right now, the Obama Administration is the strongest, if you will, and the greatest adversary that Israel has." Jay Shapiro Show - 12 July 09 'The Real US-Israel Relationship' - Israel National Radio

Increasingly, it is becoming apparent that the US President, Barack Hussein Obama no longer has any apprehension in hiding the fact that he is not a friend of Israel.

Monday's meeting with "Top Jewish Organizational Leaders" hand-picked for passivity, (as pointed out in the Leibler article below) further supports the notion that Obama is unashamedly and openly anti-Israel. Obama wants no opposition to his opinion that Yosh is the biggest obstacle to peace and wants support for that position by the lefties who voted for him. The idea that "settlements" are the biggest obstacle to peace also is a surrender to the false notion that Israel was required to withdraw from all of Yosh in any of the previous "negotiations" or treaties.
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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: foreignpolicy; israel; obama; terrorism
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Say, does Egypt have troops in Afghanistan?

I'm not seeing any pro-Egypt threads hereabouts.

Do they deserve praise for doing NOTHING too?

21 posted on 07/16/2009 4:03:20 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
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22 posted on 07/16/2009 6:11:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: humblegunner

Listen buster, since you don’t seem to get what people are trying to explain to you in this thread, I’ll try a different approach. How about this:

1948, Israel Independence War = NO American troops on the ground
1956, Suez War = NO American troops on the ground
1967, Six Day War = NO American troops on the ground
1969-1970, War of Attrition = NO American troops on the ground
1973, Yom Kippur War = NO American troops on the ground
1982, First Lebanon War = NO American troops on the ground
1987-1991, First Intifada = NO American troops on the ground
2000-2009+, Second Intifada = NO American troops on the ground
2006, Second Lebanon War = NO American troops on the ground

Now is it just me, or is there a pattern forming here?


23 posted on 07/16/2009 6:31:09 PM PDT by kress
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To: SunkenCiv; Cinnamon Girl; humblegunner; APRPEH; GiovannaNicoletta; kress
For some reason (maybe the thread topic, or the posts, or the combo) this little scene from Blazing Saddles just keeps running through my head...
24 posted on 07/16/2009 6:36:12 PM PDT by bigheadfred (NEGROMANCER!!!! Run for your LIVES!!!)
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To: bigheadfred

If you mean because there’s something ironic about saying that Israel should go fight in Iraq even though the U.S. doesn’t want them there, just to prove they are true allies, then I sort of get your connection.


25 posted on 07/16/2009 8:27:51 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: humblegunner
Who is praising anyone for doing "nothing"?

Are you really going to state with a straight face that it is Israel's fault that they are not participating in the Afghanistan war? How do you know they wouldn't help if requested?

Where is your criticism for past and present administrations for not asking Israel to help?

26 posted on 07/17/2009 1:00:43 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: humblegunner
So they "may" have presumed to train our fine forces in 2002.

Sweet.

It's amazing how we ever won any world wars without such support.


Who rattled your cage?
27 posted on 07/17/2009 1:13:48 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I hate it when a thread degenerates into an “Israel: Right or Wrong?” discussion. It happened over on Delphi a few years back, when the Israelis sent around a bus that had been blown up by a suicide bomber, and I started a thread about it because my church had it on display for a weekend.


28 posted on 07/17/2009 3:02:03 AM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you’d like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High Volume.

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29 posted on 07/17/2009 8:08:58 AM PDT by SJackson (the number-one job facing the middle class...a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S. Jobs)
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To: humblegunner
And how many troops has Israel provided to assist in Iraq and Afghanistan?

How well do you think the Arab Muslims would have dealt with having Israeli troops on Arab soil?

Just to refresh my memory of what a great ally they are.

For one thing, they've been one of the best and most consistent suppliers of invaluable intelligence that we've used for many years.

30 posted on 07/17/2009 12:17:00 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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To: humblegunner

For your information Israel wanted to participate in Gulf 1 but they were rejected as counterproductive to building a coalition. Israel was not happy about the exclusion.

Let me ask you this, how many US troops are stationed in Israel? How many in Europe? How many fought or were stationed to save Europe from WW1,WW2,USSR? And then ask whether the European contributions to Iraq and Afghanistan pay for US cost in blood and treasure.

Next ask yourself why the US under Pres Bush wanted to build a missile shield for Europe to protect against Iran nukes. Are you under the delusion that the only country threatened by Iran nukes is Israel?


31 posted on 07/17/2009 12:39:16 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: APRPEH

What’s “Yosh?”

I thought it’s Yesha.


32 posted on 07/17/2009 12:39:59 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: dervish
Are you under the delusion that the only country threatened by Iran nukes is Israel?

No, I just don't see Israel as all that vital.

33 posted on 07/17/2009 12:47:43 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Ironically, a decade later in 1991, then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney gave a photograph of the bombed Osirak reactor to Major General David Ivry, the man who had commanded the Israeli air force during the attack, on which he wrote “with thanks and appreciation for the outstanding job [you] did on the Iraqi Nuclear Program in 1981 which made our job much easier in Desert Storm.”

http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=30946


34 posted on 07/17/2009 12:49:53 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: humblegunner

I just don’t see Europe as all that vital. Europe has been a huge liability to us. Israel is damn cheap for what they give us. Stop looking at foreign aide and ask yourself how much of our defense budget is Europe.


35 posted on 07/17/2009 12:58:01 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: humblegunner

I’m going to answer this as if you are as stupid as you are pretending to be.

Arabs will not cooperate in any venture Israel is in. Israel has offered and been rejected. Even Israeli reporters were not allowed to embed from Kuwait like all other journalists at the start of the Iraq war.

Now get lost.


36 posted on 07/17/2009 1:02:41 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: dervish
Now get lost.

Look, n00b, you posted to me, I responded.

Take your "get lost" and suppositorize yourself.

37 posted on 07/17/2009 1:09:45 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

If I’m a noob you’re over the hill. I think the arteries to your brain have sclerotized.


38 posted on 07/17/2009 1:21:50 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: Berosus

:’) Yeah, it’ll happen once in a while, even here.


39 posted on 07/17/2009 7:12:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: dervish

it was ‘yesha’ until the withdrawal. with G-d’s help it will be again soon. ‘Yosh is abbreviated Yehuda and Shomron. ‘Yesha’ included Gaza.


40 posted on 07/20/2009 9:22:50 AM PDT by APRPEH (www.fredthompsonshow.com)
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