I have no idea when it started....
Posted on 01/30/2009 12:56:39 PM PST by sarah p
i have a question. (actually, i have lots of questions!)
what or who was it that first questioned obama's place of birth?
i am trying to figure out the original source of this info. it seems to me that the key accusation of his kenyan birth came from some who either knew or speculated that his mother traveled to kenya in the summer of 1961. it is certainly a reasonable hypothesis, but is there any evidence or reference that someone can site as to the first person that claimed this?
i think that philip berg was the first to claim that obama's mother traveled to kenya. does anyone recall if he actually was the first and, if so, what he based this claim on?
before you all start calling me an obot, here me out.
I BELIEVE THAT OBAMA IS CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE TO BE POTUS, regardless of where he was born because his father was never a US citizen.
it is possible that the kenyan birth theory could have been started to divert our attention from the obvious and well documented fact that obama is not a nbc because his father was a foreign national.
this birth certificate issue has been twisted by the media and others, resulting in anyone who questioned his eligibility to be labeled as "wacko conspiracy theorists, racists, etc. this has resulted in the loss of credibility of this issue in the public eye and hinders otherwise intelligent citizens from looking further into the details of this case.
it is a safe assumption that a harvard trained constitutional lawyer, such as obama, would know the definition of nbc and how he is not one.
of course, i still think it's possible that he was born in kenya. i just think it is easy to get lost in all of the evidence and theories. it would be a good idea for us to step back, look at the big picture and try to determine how this whole mess began.
good bless america! thanks to all who still want to protect our constitution.
I actually have a question, another poster posted the following below on another thread...
“i have a question. (actually, i have lots of questions!) what or who was it that first questioned obama’s place of birth? i am trying to figure out the original source of this info. it seems to me that the key accusation of his kenyan birth came from some who either knew or speculated that his mother traveled to kenya in the summer of 1961. it is certainly a reasonable hypothesis, but is there any evidence or reference that someone can site as to the first person that claimed this? i think that philip berg was the first to claim...”
Letter from a MoveOn.org member
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2175177/posts
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And then, on this thread you posted the exact same wording (which is very odd)...
“i have a question. (actually, i have lots of questions!) what or who was it that first questioned obama’s place of birth? i am trying to figure out the original source of this info. it seems to me that the key accusation of his kenyan birth came from some who either knew or speculated that his mother traveled to kenya in the summer of 1961. it is certainly a reasonable hypothesis, but is there any evidence or reference that someone can site as to the first person that claimed this? i think that philip berg was the first to claim...”
what started this birth certificate debacle?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2175176/posts
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This is very strange... LOL...
Get your state governor and state legistlation to pass laws mandating that all candidates present long form and certified Birth Certificates to be on the 2012 ballot. Write them. Show up at meetings. Get editorials in the paper questioning why this loop hole of "swearing you are eligible" exists, when that doesn't work for our kids and their little league softball or football teams. Get after them.
As a great American Hero said, "Let's Roll!"
If you use proper grammar and punctuation in your posts, you’ll do fine here. If you don’t, you will be fed to the ZOTs.
Welcome to FR.
I believe the Kenyan parliment has stated Obama is born in Kenya. Also, his relatives claim he was born in Kenya.
If Barry was frank and honest, the whole matter would be resolved
That is one expensive cut of tax-payer bought meat.
i almost never use any capital letters in my posts or emails. it’s just my “online handwriting”.
my source is my own brain. i wrote this myself. :)
That is a really big "IF". Finally, you and I agree on something.
When I was a child, we took in an injured and abandoned baby squirrel and put him in a cardboard box for a makeshift cage. We fed him with an eyedropper and nursed him back to health. One day, Sammy (the name we gave him) chewed a hole in the box, ran roughshod all over the house, ripped mom’s curtains to shreds, chewed the fingers and nose off of my brand new “Velvet” doll, and ran up my Aunt Goldie’s leg (under her patio shift) and bit her in a place you seriously don’t want to be bit.
And that was before breakfast.
Good times. Good times.
A “follow-up” — showing — one post *right after* another post — with the exact same wording, and two different posters
Letter from a MoveOn.org member
January 30, 2009 2:56:39 PM CST · by pocket5s
what started this birth certificate debacle?
January 30, 2009 2:56:39 PM CST · by sarah p
Isn’t that strange?
Many key indicators of troll.
Apparently it’s pocket5s *style* also.
Why don’t we ping them?
It is still a good question. There is likely evidence out there. I doubt all evidence of a white American giving birth in Kenya in the early 1960's has been destroyed. Photos, entry and departure records, airline records, hospital records, letters, postage markings of letters. This isn't an easy matter to really make go away.
I think that is why the records in Hawaii haven't been replaced. There is too much potential for refutation.
you said “It may take another Constitutional Amendment to *correct* the “process” for vetting a candidate for President of the United States, per the Constitutionally listed qualifications. Or else, a number of state laws to do the same thing — i.e., “close up the loophole” in the Constitution...”
Prior to this circumstance, every other prior presidential candidate has a heritage of verifiable circumstances. Family lineage. Hometown. School records and friends. Church and baptismal certificates, including the people, friends and neighbors, neighborhood associations and accomplishments, diploma, college transcripts, college diploma........
What is troubling is that Obama has absolutely no records. No childhood shcool records, interaction with neighbors, childhood friends, birth certificate.nothing.
Prior to this circumstance the candidates family heritage and associations have been the vetting, and viewed as adequate to the people their citizenship qualifications.
Obama has no records. One locked up paper is the entire question.
It’s actually post #50 which I’m really talking about...
(as both of those posts started out with the *exact same wording* for each post, and posted at the same time...)
As bad as it was, maybe the greatest forgery in history? Now that is an historic event for you!
If you can press the SHIFT key to type double quotation marks, you can press it to type capital letters.
I have no idea when it started....
thanks for the link! i actually know how to use proper grammar and i have an advanced degree.
i am just using my first amendment rights here.
i am going to boycott using capital letters until obama is removed from office.
if he doesn’t have to follow the rules, than why should any of us?
i don’t understand why so many are focusing on my capitalization and not the content of my post.
here is a sentance so that you all won’t keep calling me a troll.
Barack Hussein Obama is not a natural born citizen and therefore, he is constitutionally ineligible to be POTUS!
ok? really, i have a lot of repect for all of you here that are also demanding the truth.
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