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Will Obama Countenance a Second Civil War?
From Sea to Shining Sea ^ | 1/20/09 | Purple Mountains

Posted on 01/20/2009 5:14:39 AM PST by PurpleMountains

In my opinion, the cultural war between secular-progressives and traditional Americans will become a violent, bloody war if the Democrats in Congress try to criminalize policy differences by trying to punish members of the Bush Administration for attempting (and succeeding) to protect American lives. Obama isn’t saying much, although he appointed Holder, but Pelosi, Conyers, Reid, Holder and others are mouthing some very dangerous thoughts. As a minimum, practices that were originated by Carter and Clinton and merely continued by the Bush Administration (such as rendition and warrantless wiretapping) will be given much publicity, and, beyond that, some of us will be forced to support some violent people we normally shun and despise.

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TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 111th; barackobama; cwii; cwiiping; democratcongress; democratparty; democrats; ericholder; holder; johnconyers; nancypelosi; obama; pelosi
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To: IYAS9YAS

Whatever.


41 posted on 01/20/2009 7:04:32 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: NucSubs

It is one thing to express an opinion, but quite another to tell others to stop expressing theirs. Fascism knows no party.


42 posted on 01/20/2009 7:05:25 AM PST by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: Camel Joe

Oh, and it’s “Oceania has always been at war with East Asia” or “Eurasia”. If you’re going to try and chastise someone using classic literature, at least get it right.


43 posted on 01/20/2009 7:06:22 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: Camel Joe

LOL!

Oh, okay. So now I am a fascist because I told Francis to lighten up on the concept of armed rebellion against the United States.

LOL.


44 posted on 01/20/2009 7:07:36 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: NucSubs

Actually it is expressed in several forms so as to confuse the populace as to the true enemy, do try and keep up won’t you.


45 posted on 01/20/2009 7:08:38 AM PST by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: NucSubs

Oh, okay. So now I am a fascist because I told Francis to lighten up on the concept of armed rebellion against the United States

Had you done only that I would have said nothing, but you went far beyond that.


46 posted on 01/20/2009 7:10:35 AM PST by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: Camel Joe

Actually, you’re wrong. It was used by the party to confuse those in Oceania. Never once in the entire book are the words “at war with Oceania” written.

Do try and improve your reading comprehension.


47 posted on 01/20/2009 7:15:26 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: shoutingandpointing; NucSubs
There are many ways to rebel. Personally, I am cutting out any dealings at all with Obama supporters. I won't knowingly spend a cent at their establishments.

I've already talked to some who are going to severely limit taxes paid. They figure if all these big name dims ( Treasury Sec nominee, Rangel etc) pay only when caught, they will do the same.

Just as a side note, I stopped in to check the supplies of gold, silver and ammo at a few shops yesterday ........ there aren't any. You can place prepaid orders for 3 week delivery with a high premium. This is a worrisome state of affairs.

Nam Vet

48 posted on 01/20/2009 7:15:53 AM PST by Nam Vet (This space for rent............Hard currency only)
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To: Camel Joe
Correction: Never once in the entire book are the words "at war with Oceania" written to describe "We are at war with Oceania". The entire book takes place in Oceania. It would be like saying "We are war with ourselves".
49 posted on 01/20/2009 7:17:38 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: Nam Vet

Whatever. That is not the same thing as Civil War. That is not the same thing as the article was implying would happen.


50 posted on 01/20/2009 7:20:46 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: NucSubs

“Remember, this a-hole won pretty big.”

10% wasn’t it? That’s “pretty big”??


51 posted on 01/20/2009 7:21:05 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

It was around 6-7% and that is huge by normal presidential election standards. It was the largest NON_incumbent victory in our history.


52 posted on 01/20/2009 7:22:28 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: NucSubs
Whatever.

Perfect response. You sound like the type to continue diplomacy while the enemy is bashing in your door.

Where do you draw the line?

53 posted on 01/20/2009 7:23:37 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: Camel Joe

Oh please.


54 posted on 01/20/2009 7:23:47 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: NucSubs
... 53% is huge by election standards. It was the largest NON-incumbent margin in U.S. history.

Not in percentage terms. Here are a few earlier victory margins.

- Andrew Jackson [non incumbent] in 1828: 56%

- Franklin Roosevelt [non incumbent] in 1932: 57%

- Dwight Eisenhower [non incumbent] in 1952: 55%

- Warren Harding [non incumbent] in 1920: 60%

55 posted on 01/20/2009 7:26:10 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: IYAS9YAS
Yeah, that's me. You nailed it. I do not advocate armed rebellion so I am appeaser. You pegged me good Cochise.

This is where I draw the line;

You go ahead and play modern day Confederate. I'll not talk about attacking my countrymen like it was a real possibility.

56 posted on 01/20/2009 7:27:40 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: rustbucket

Fair enough. In numbers though.

All of this is besides the point. Half or more of the posts to me have been on this issue.

My point was it was a bigger margin than the past half dozen or so elections. The guy has a lot of people behind him right now and he’d have tons more if people started talking CW.

The whole point of my comments was stop withe the CW nonsense. It makes us look ridiculous.


57 posted on 01/20/2009 7:30:35 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: NucSubs
It was the largest margin of popular vote victory by an non-incumbent...

You must be young. Do the numbers "51" and "41" mean anything to you?

58 posted on 01/20/2009 7:32:27 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kabar

many thousands were killed in unspeakable violence when the partition of Pakistan & India took place.


59 posted on 01/20/2009 7:33:11 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: NucSubs

Sieg Heil


60 posted on 01/20/2009 7:33:18 AM PST by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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