Soliton signing out!

12/25/2008 | Soliton

[Soliton]

After 10 years and many thousands of replies, I am leaving FR.

I don't really care, and I don't know why anyone else would.

I am leaving before I am banned (again). Truth doesn't seem to matter on FR. I don't know if it is donations or sympathetic opinions that do, but I have been suspended twice when I followed the rules and the people who complained to the moderators didn't, yet the moderators sided with them.

For the record, evolution is a fact and the Shroud of Turin is a fraud. I would prove it if the admin moderators would let me, but they won't. Your resident "expert", Swordmaker won't debate me because he can't.

I will work to build a forum where members have rights and truth matters.

Merry Christmas

[Graybeard58]

All those creds and you don’t know that “critique” is a noun?

[Aquamarine]

For the record, evolution is a fact and the Shroud of Turin is a fraud. I would prove it if the admin moderators would let me, but they won't.

That's a bad cause. Why would you want to prove that to be ture?

[RegulatorCountry]

Lol. It must of been epic.

They were, right up there with re-fighting the War Between The States. Thousands of replies, several threads going simultaneously. It was fun, but heated. Some FReepers acquired lasting animosities then, but no point in naming names, lol.

[Jemian]

What?!

[Jemian]

Lack of sleep, laziness, general grouchiness and a plain lack of caring.

[allmost]

:)

[rlmorel]

I’ll be sure to look for it. Hope it isn’t anytime soon...:)

[count-your-change]

Yes, the beer and chips ran out hours ago.

[snarks_when_bored]

Soliton, I don't recall our paths crossing on FR (if they did and I've forgotten, my apologies). I'm not sure why you've been catching grief from the Mods for denying the authenticity of the Shroud of Turin and defending evolution. A couple of years ago I posted a few remarks about the Shroud, but it's not an on-going concern of mine. I take it to be a clever piece of religious iconographic art from the Middle Ages and not the actual burial shroud of Jesus, but I don't much care about changing the minds of those who believe otherwise. As for evolution, no empirical study is ever certifiably free from error or completely done with accounting for phenomena, and evolution is no exception. But if it's wrong, then it's wrong in a way which is far more subtle than thousands of very subtle minds have been able to determine over a century-and-a-half of trying. I expect it to be only a matter of time before our understanding of the actual origins of life improves markedly, and I'm confident (although, of course, not 100% certain) that that understanding will not undermine the general idea of evolution.

Best regards to you and Merry Christmas, too!

s_w_b

[an amused spectator]

Ummm..., maybe that you don’t hardly post anything... LOL..

LOL! Over the years, chesty's been about as shy and retiring as his namesake... ;-)

[Uncle Miltie]

"you can be conservative and non-religious"

Fair enough.

But irrelgion is no excuse for bad manners.

[Jemian]

OK, you made me check Miriam Webster. This is what I found:

critique
3 entries found.

1critique (noun)

2critique (transitive verb)

self-

Main Entry: 2critique
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): cri·tiqued; cri·tiqu·ing
Date: 1751
: to examine critically : review [critique the plan]

So, while "critique" is primarily used as a noun, there is a secondary usage as a verb. I'm still grumpy.

[WackySam]

I’ll miss your posts.........

[Rocky]

“I don’t care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members.”

Groucho Marx

[Oztrich Boy]

All those creds and you don’t know that “critique” is a noun?

Verbing nouns is long-established

Oxford gives "critique: the action of criticizing" from 1815

[an amused spectator]

I’m crushed... **grin**

[metmom]

For the record, evolution is a fact and the Shroud of Turin is a fraud. I would prove it if the admin moderators would let me, but they won't.

Truth: This is a word best avoided entirely in physics [and science] except when placed in quotes, or with careful qualification. Its colloquial use has so many shades of meaning from ‘it seems to be correct’ to the absolute truths claimed by religion, that it’s use causes nothing but misunderstanding. Someone once said "Science seeks proximate (approximate) truths." Others speak of provisional or tentative truths. Certainly science claims no final or absolute truths. Source.

Proof: A term from logic and mathematics describing an argument from premise to conclusion using strictly logical principles. In mathematics, theorems or propositions are established by logical arguments from a set of axioms, the process of establishing a theorem being called a proof.

The colloquial meaning of "proof" causes lots of problems in physics discussion and is best avoided. Since mathematics is such an important part of physics, the mathematician's meaning of proof should be the only one we use. Also, we often ask students in upper level courses to do proofs of certain theorems of mathematical physics, and we are not asking for experimental demonstration!

So, in a laboratory report, we should not say "We proved Newton's law" Rather say, "Today we demonstrated (or verified) the validity of Newton's law in the particular case of..." Source.

http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/jarrett/LiU/resource/misused_glossary.html

Nothing is science can be said to be true and you can't prove anything, only disprove it.

[BykrBayb]

Merry Christmas!

[JRios1968]

[metmom]

Kind of like nailing jello to a wall, eh?