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Posted on 11/02/2008 11:15:25 AM PST by thefife
The First Time I Heard of Barack
During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.
V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause - a cause she obviously was not abandoning.
One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.'s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.
As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge - one her husband tried to quietly rein in.
The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:
"You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven't you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice-president and you didn't do it."
The general response went something along the lines that you don't vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don't vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket.
"Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon."
The consensus we expressed was that we didn't think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not.
"What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?"
The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist."
It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, "It sounds like you know something we don't know."
"Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call "Ivy League". You don't believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That's right, a chocolate baby! And he's going to be your President."
She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly - as though all were foregone conclusions. "It's all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won't have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He's gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America."
We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he'd be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.
She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.
She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. "Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet."
At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn't understand what the point was and don't recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.
Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: "If I remember correctly, 'Barack' comes from the Arabic word for 'Blessing.' That seems to be an odd name for an American." She replied quickly, "Yes. It is 'African'", she insisted, "and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world."
She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way.
So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?
Well, it's definitely anecdotal. It doesn't prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.
Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.
Did ya ever notice that he has lots of sons all over this country?
Did Communism Fake Its Own Death in 1991?
American Thinker ^ | January 16, 2010 | Jason McNew
In a  1984 book [New Lies for Old], ex-KGB Major Anatoliy Golitsyn predicted the liberalization of the Soviet Bloc and claimed that it would be a strategic deception. ..."
"Golitsyn's argument was that beginning in about 1960, the Soviet Union embarked on a strategy of massive long-range strategic deception which would span several decades and result in the destruction of Western capitalism and the erection of a communist world government."
"Golitsyn published his second book, The Perestroika Deception, after the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991. This book contained further analysis of the liberalization, in addition to previously classified memoranda submitted by Golitsyn to the CIA. The two books must be read together to get a complete picture of Golitsyn's thesis."
Link to read "New Lies for Old" online:
Link to read "The Perestroika Deception" online:
Look at the date of the article- “10/31/2008 | Tom Fife” I remember reading this years ago.
I wrote my comment on Nov 2nd 2008.
I believe I wrote that because I was ticked that it should have been written months before 10/31/2008 to give all of us more time to spread the article far and wide.
I think there was an election or something going on 2 days later....;)
(read post 36 too for clarification)
I now understand that, I did not when I replied to your ancient post. I did not notice the date of your reply.
So what else is new?
Bump for historians...
*Did ya ever notice that he has lots of sons all over this country?*
Of course. However, turkey basters were overused because 0h0m0 does not go for women.
I do not remember if I told you, kristinn and justanobody when we met in the 9/09 FR rally in DC, that at the time, I heard from the Russian community about 0b0z0 as a Soviet-groomed communist and the Fife story above.
I did not know the Americans* names then, only as *an American couple.*
At the time, I would not have blamed anyone for not believing such an *outlandish claim.*
In 1992, Obama was 29 years old. He was not elected to the Illinois Senate until 1997, five years after this. I do not believe this woman could possibly have known those details. In 2004 he would be elected to the US Senate, 12 years after this,, and then run for President in 2008...16 years after.
That's not "soon." And too many things could have intervened for their possibly to have been this level of assurance..
I have absolutely no doubt that Obama was groomed. I believe his main financiers were Islamic, his friend's family in Pakistan.
Some in Russia's high circles may have been aware of him at some pint.
I just do not believe that this woman had the information portrayed here in 1992. Too soon for some inane bureaucrat in Moscow to know this.
In addition, think back on the time frame and what was happening at this time...too much else going on in Russia at that time for this to have been, one, a topic of conversation, and two, to have this level of detail.
Other's may believe it...I simply do not.
That is awful lot of detail for a conversation that happened more than 20 years ago.
Here it is!
Thanks to several other FReepers.
Interesting info on the fraud. Mark to read
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