BREAKING* Barry Soetoro’s Birth Certificate in Republican Hands

Texas Darlin' Blog ^ | 8/10/08 | Texas Darlin'

[freespirited]

 

Two sources, including Larry Johnson of No Quarter (who just returned from a business trip in Hawaii), have independently told me that Republicans have in their possession Barack Obama’s Hawaiian Birth Certificate.

The sources confirm that the theory I presented here — see Obama Hides Indonesian Identity, Fake Birth Certificate Explained — nearly 10 days ago, IS TRUE:

The name on the Birth Certificate is Barry Soetoro.

Larry Johnson reports:

Did I also mention how small Hawaii is? Republican operatives, with help from their own island backers, have unearthed critical information on Obama and are just biding their time until after the convention to drop it on him. Such as? Having a birth certificate that lists you as Barry Soetoro.

Thanks to Judah Benjamin for doing the ground-breaking research for this blog on Barack Obama’s Indonesian connection.

His work was the foundation for the theory, and provided affirmation of Polarik’s original findings that the COLB was forged.

What does this mean?

It means that Barack Obama has been hiding his Indonesian identity and citizenship, as we’ve been trying to shout from the rooftop for weeks. He may still have Indonesian citizenship; or maybe he dumped it along the way to help polish the path forward for political ambitions.

Never mind; Obama concealed it from us. He lied. He tried to wipe out his past, for fear that it would render him ineligible. He thought he was beyond being vetted, questioned, researched. He thought he was the Messiah.

Larry has more, and I have a feeling this passage alludes to the possibility that Obama used his Indonesian identity (perhaps a passport?) to travel to Pakistan:

I confirmed today that several teams/individuals visited Jakarta during the last six months to gather up critical documents regarding Barack. It is amazing what money can buy. The information includes details of how Barack made his way to Pakistan. Oh! Did I mention there have been similar efforts underway in Pakistan. There are several lessons and warnings in the John Edwards affair for Obama. First and foremost, you cannot hide your past.

No, you cannot hide from your past. Nor can you hide from citizen journalists.

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By the way, I still think the Rocky Mountain story about Kenyan citizenship is probably not well-sourced. But I’m still checking it.

 

[pissant]

Except the Clintonites and Pame Geller both claimed to have vetted Techdude. COuld they both be lying? I suppose, but it is doubtful.

BTW, weclome to FR. Seems to be a whole host of newbies rushingto Obama’s defense these days. GO figure.

[Red Steel]

Look at the similarities between the Larry Johnson “whitey” claims and this claim. Both times Johnson claimed each was “in Republican hands”. The guy is a scam artist and a liar.

Bob Beckel on Hannity and Colmes spread the "whitey" tape claims, and he's an Obama guy. The scam that I do know for sure is that Obama Certificate of Live Birth is bogus - 100% certainty fraudulent.

[freespirited]

Not one of these people have produced reproducable results.

It's my understanding that Techdude's finding--that Obama's COLB is forged from his sister's--has been replicated.

As far as credentials go, somebody called “Techdude” claims credentials, but never presents their real name or the credentials. They have only claimed to have “credentials”.

His credentials are listed at the Atlas Shrugs blog.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html

[Little Ray]

Even if this were true, Congress would pass special legislation making Soetoro-Obama a “natural born citizen” and allowing him to run. The ‘Pubbies will vote with the Democrats lest they be called “Divisive” or “Racist.” McCain would be the first to vote for the legislation.

I’d be happier if this were in Hillary!’s hands.

[freespirited]

As for his real name, I cannot fault anyone for using a pseudonym in a situation like this one. The Obamabots will not stand for anyone challenging their messiah.

A guy who set up a petition about the birth certificate shut it down in short order after receiving death threats against his family.

That said, several site owners posting his material have indicated that they do know Techdude’s true identity.

[freespirited]

You are no doubt right that he is the candidate. I would expect that the courts would just rule in his favor, a la the Toricelli-Lautenberg fraud.

This exercise is still useful though. It will hurt him if the public finds out that he concealed material information.

[Red Steel]

Folks, this has probably been gone over a million times, so I’m sorry if I’m repeating the question:

If BO/BS was born in that beautiful state of HI, what need did he have to forge his sister’s CoLB?

Thank you.

Folks, we have gone over a billion times that the Obama's COLB is beyond certainty an altered document which makes it fraudulent. We know Obama has claimed the COLB to be a genuine document.

At the moment, the reasons are unknown for the making of the bogus COLB to fool the public. Some poster take speculation and premises said as fact, but as most know are only said to flush out possible motives.

[BurbankKarl]

over here

[SE Mom]

I’m repeating myself (a habit I’ve acquired with the mellowing years;) but- I’m far from convinced that Maya’s name is anywhere on or near Barry’s COLB on his site. It’s yet to be SHOWN as we’ve seen other images and how they were- or could have- easily been manipulated.

The Maya COLB as original doesn’t pass the WTH test for me- and that doesn’t mean I think either Pam Geller or Texas Darlin are trying to pull a fast one- they could have been bamboozled as well.

It’s clear that the document of COLB on Barry’s Fight the Smears site is a fake- beyond that all we can do is speculate as to WHY it was done and what possible information was he attempting to hide..

Remember- at some point- the other side is going to start playing their own dis-information games.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

Thank you both for your replies (as a sit here scratching my head).

[Red Steel]

I’ll scratch mine too.

[rodguy911]

Wow awesome stuff there USM!

[wtc911]

Tell me, when i Larry Sinclair’s story going to break, before or after the Whitey tape hits the air? Maybe you should spend some time on those stories, too.

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The poster to whom you addressed this covers the Free Republic with sinclair's con. He's linked to sinclair's site so often that sinclair himself now posts here.

He's being taken for a ride by a career conman and is proud of it.

[Swordmaker]

But McCain was born in Panama. No amount of mumbo-jumbo or laying on of hands from well-meaning Senators can change the words or implicit meaning of our Constitution.

Drop the McCain being born in Panama as a disabling status for him running for President. This is a settled issue.

The law in the United States specifically states that a child born of an American Citizen who has been posted at Government orders to an overseas post is considered to be born a as a Natural Born Citizen. His parents, being ordered to go, are considered embassadors (note the spelling... not Ambassadors, Embassador is an archaic word for a type of diplomat. Both are based on the Latin word ambactus meaning ‘servant’, the word embassy derives from the same root), and any issue proceeding from them while serving on a posting is a Natural Born American Citizen holding allegiance only to the United States. People posted by government order to foreign places are acting in Allegiance to their national interest and their children derive their allegiance from that allegiance.

Part of the problem you and others who think that McCain, being born in Panama, is disabled from serving as President, are having is that the Term "Natural Born Citizen" used in the Article II of the Constitution, has been confabulated in the past hundred years to mean "Native Born Citizen."

When we look at Constitutional meaning, we have to look at what the meaning of words and phrases were at the time of its Framing. The term "Natural Born Citizen" is not "Native Born Citizen" and had a different legal meaning in 1789. Its usage predates the Constitution, going back to at least the 12 Century, and had the Framers intended to use another phrase, such as "Native Born Citizen, they would have. "Natural Born" has to do with derived 'natural' allegiance one has to one's Nation of birth.

Natural Law uses the same adjective to modify "Law" as "Natural Born" uses to modify "Born Citizen." They both have the same connotation. Natural law and natural rights follow from the nature of man and the world. We have the right to defend ourselves, our families, our village, our nation, our leaders, and our property, and this right follows from our Natural birth as members of families, villages, and nations, or as lieges of our leaders. When one is born one derives one's Natural allegiance from one's parents allegiances.

English Common Law is the basis for much of our our Law and Jurisprudence and it established long before the Constitution was written that Natural Born Citizens did not necessarily have to be born within the borders. Exceptions were established for citizens posted to foreign countries at the order of the King such as ambassadors and embassadors. When England started building their Empire (see there's that prefix again), they extended it in common law to children born of Merchants living in foreign countries. Our law does not go that far but does recognize it for diplomatic and military postings.

McCain's parents were not in Panama under any allegiance to the Panamanian government but were there, following orders from McCain's father's and mother's allegiance to their government. His Natural Born Citizen ship rights derive from his Father's allegiance to the United States of America, who in response to that allegiance, was working for his nation's interests in a Foreign country, at his Commander-in-Chief's orders. His son derives his allegiance and his Natural Born Status from that allegiance.

The Sense of the Senate vote for McCain was totally unnecessary.

[Nipfan]

Confirmation that the certificate is a forgery has NOTHING to do with Larry Johnson. It has been confirmed by multiple experts, several of whom have independently found that the original certificate it was based on was issued to Maya Soetoro.

So, no, this is not a wild goose chase.

[Yaelle]

The forgery put out as legit is indeed a problem. Not just a legal problem but a known lie by a presidential candidate never looks good. Um, that is, if people hear about it.

With the Soviet-style MSM we have in this country now (John Edwards case in point!), that can be a real problem.

There could be a video of Obama sitting at his desk rubbing on his birth certificate with a pink rubber eraser, and no paper in this country would print it except the National Enquirer.

[Yaelle]

Yes, Obama’s hiding details of his past and nationalities IS the problem. Most likely there is nothing in the actual background to disqualify him to be President, but shrouding these documents in secrecy OR, worse, actually forging them for online perusal SHOULD BE deadly for a candidacy.

[BIGLOOK]

I think the test for all this will be to see if either Rush,Hannity or Mark pick it up.

So far none have wanted to touch it. I suspect this brouhaha is the Clinton's domain and their ace up the sleeve to unseat the anointed candidate.....whether it's true or not.

Think back to the missing FBI files, Carnivore program, the Passport Peeking scandal and all the apparatchiks and commissars that the Clinton's installed during their regime. Many of the super delegates will remember how the Clinton's deal with disloyalty, which is perhaps a reason Obama got this far in the first place, a chance to be free from them. But many are probably not wanting to bet the farm now.

[rodguy911]

Ditto this post for me right on.