Who's with President Bush?

townhall ^ | February 18, 2003 | Frank J. Gaffney, Jr.

[TLBSHOW]

Who's with President Bush?

President Bush has characterized the choice to be made in this war on terror: "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists." The stark clarity of this binary decision has served the United States well in marshaling a large number of nations in the fight against al Qaeda and a smaller, but still ample, number for the next phase of this war: the liberation of Iraq.

Regrettably, in the months since September 11, 2001, people who have made no secret of their sympathy for terrorists, provided them financial support, excused their murderous attacks and/or sought to impede the prosecution of the war against them have repeatedly been put in the company of the President. In other words, individuals and organizations who appear to be "with the terrorists" have time and again been allowed to be with the President in the White House and elsewhere.

For example: o On September 20, 2001 -- just nine days after the deadly attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon -- Shaykh Hamza Yusuf was the Muslim representative in a small ecumenical gathering held in the Oval Office.

At the same time, FBI agents were trying to interview him at his house in California since he had declared two days before the attack: "This country is facing a terrible fate....This country stands condemned. It stands condemned like Europe stood condemned because of what it did -- and lest people forget that Europe suffered two world wars after conquering the Muslim lands." His wife told the incredulous agents Yusuf wasn't home, he was with the President. o Six days later, President Bush met in the Roosevelt Room with a Muslim imam by the name of Muzammil H. Siddiqi. Siddiqi is a long-time board member of several organizations in the United States funded by, and closely tied to, Saudi Arabia's radical state religion known as Wahhabism. Two of these groups, including one where Siddiqi still sits on the board, were raided in March 2002 by Federal authorities in pursuit of terrorist financing.

This presidential meeting was all the more puzzling since the imam had shown his true colors by claiming, at a rally the previous October: "America has to learn...If you remain on the side of injustice, the wrath of God will come.

Please, all Americans. Do you remember that? Allah is watching everyone. God is watching everyone. If you continue doing injustice, and tolerate injustice, the wrath of God will come." o On September 17, 2001, President Bush paid a visit to the mosque in Washington. There he was photographed flanked by Nihad Awad, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

CAIR has long been an admirer and public defender of terrorist organizations whose attacks against even innocent women and children it sees as legitimate acts of "liberation." Awad has personally declared, "I am a supporter of the Hamas movement." o Also in the picture with President Bush at the mosque was Khaled Saffuri, currently chairman of an organization called the Islamic Institute, which he co-founded with conservative activist Grover Norquist.

Saffuri previously served as the development director of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, a supporter of the Palestine Liberation Organization when it made no bones about using terrorism for political purposes. He went on to become deputy director of the radical American Muslim Council (AMC), under then-director Abduraman Alamoudi -- a publicly declared supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah, whose statements of solidarity with these groups prompted the Bush 2000 campaign to return his contributions. Under Saffuri's leadership, the Islamic Institute has attacked the Bush Administration's investigations of radical Muslim groups and closures of organizations suspected of funding terrorists.

The Institute has been funded by groups raided in the above-mentioned terrorist financing investigations. It lobbied intensively against portions of the USA Patriot Act. And Saffuri has personally denounced the President's listing of the Holy Land Foundation as a charity that supported terrorist organizations. He has acknowledged sponsoring the children of suicide bombers through the Foundation, even after its closure by the government.

In addition to the President, a number of his senior subordinates -- including Cabinet officers -- have met, in some cases more than once, with members of the aforementioned and other organizations with troubling attitudes towards jihadist terrorists. A particularly bizarre instance was FBI Director Robert Mueller’s keynote address last year to the American Muslim Council.

The AMC has a long record of activities hostile to the Bush Administration’s prosecution of the war on terror. It has even urged Muslims not to cooperate with the FBI! Nonetheless, according to a press release dated last Thursday, Mr. Mueller has invited the AMC’s chairman, Dr. Yahya Mossa Basha, to attend an upcoming meeting with him and “leaders of major Muslim and Arab-American organizations.”

It is very much in the President's interest -- and the Nation's -- that moderate, law-abiding, peace-loving and patriotic American Muslims be embraced and empowered by the Bush Administration and all those who support it in waging a war on terror, not on Islam.

To do so, however, the Administration must not allow those who are “with” its enemies in that struggle to continue being with the President and his team.

[CyberCowboy777]

I never said I did not sin.

You are placing words into my thread in order to discredit it.

I was making a valid point and instead of agreeing or disagreeing or ignoring it you have to make stupid statements of correction towards something I never said!

HELL IT WAS THE PREMISE OF MY STATEMENT THAT ALL HAVE SINNED!

HOW DENSE CAN YOU BE!

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Would Jesus promote a homosexual (not an ex-homo a current homo) into the leadership of his ministry?

So, in your mind, a president's administration is the equivalent of a ministry?

What gay person did President Bush treat like a human being now? I wish he'd cut that out!</ extreme sarcasm>

[Mo1]

A few of us have asked that exact question and we are STILL waiting for an answer

[justshe]

The only context I have seen is the attempt by MOST to get a poster to explain or defend his implications that President Bush is in bed with the terrorists and by implication, is a traitor.

[woodyinscc]

"What gay person did President Bush treat like a human being now? I wish he'd cut that out!</ extreme sarcasm> "


THANK YOU!!!

[Jim Robinson]

"Like I said I was trying to get more infromation before I proceeded but Howlin decided to bump it to everyone because of a space shuttle thread that wasn't going her way earlier today!"

Sheesh. Get a grip Todd.

[HairOfTheDog]

I think he's off trying to get a refund on his "gift" under the lemon law.

[TomServo]

I think he's off trying to get a refund on his "gift" under the lemon law.

OMG!!! Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa...

[CyberCowboy777]

Never imply my acceptance or agreement with mis-treating any human.

You are demonizing me in order to invalidate my point.

I do not want to hurt gays, nor do I want to make rules against them. I seek equal treatment and no special treatment for all.

And no a president's administration is not the equivalent of a ministry.

A Christian (which Bush says he is) IS supposed to emulate Christ. I do not think Christ would elevate those in direct disobedience.

And there is a difference between LIVING sin daily and sinning every now and then.

[CyberCowboy777]

I am not for mistreating gays.

I would appreciate you not implying such.

[jmc813]

And ... you are ..???

I am the great and almighty jmc813. You may know me better as the third best looking FReeper. ;)

In all seriousness though, I'm just a guy who pings a list of folks interested in debating the merits and/or lack therof of the war on drugs. We (being people on both sides of the issue) are known for having our threads getting quite heated on occasion, enough so to warrant intervention from the admin moderator last week.

I just wanted to point out to everybody one of the few threads that ended up getting more heated than the great majority of ours.

[justshe]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

A TRUE belly laugh! Thanks!

[deport]

I am done posting on this thread until I have more information

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Has your gift spoken and told you shut up? Maybe you can ask your gift to explain the #51 to you while you are awaiting more info

[CyberCowboy777]

I disagree with Bush on this issue. That is okay.

I do not hate him

I do not hate gays

Anyone who says or implies otherwise is a liar.

[TLBSHOW]

Here is the what the thread says bottom line! President Bush is playing with people Frank says are with the enemy. The end result was he should not be doing that, the question is why is he and my question long long ago was why President Bush slammed Pat Robertson right after meeting with these people. Those are the things I will spend my spare time finding out. This will be my last post to you on this matter and if you want to ask Sabertooth his thoughts go ahead since he posted information in this thread too. Last thing is I don't think Frank would be bringing this up if he did not have a concern about it. And he is being smeared for doing so by Nor.

[M Kehoe]

< Rant>

Methinks the President has read Sun Tzu. Then again, I could be wrong.

Methinks when Iraq is conquered, the Persians will fold like a house of cards. Then again, I could be wrong.

Syria, Libya, Sudan, and N. Korea can't be feeling too well at the moment. Then again, I could be wrong. < /Rant>

For many Arab and Islamic countries, and their surrogates, the time has come to pay the piper.

5.56mm

[Con X-Poser]

<< So, in your mind, a president's administration is the equivalent of a ministry? >>

To answer for CC - YES, government is supposed to be a ministry. And when one is a Christian, anything they're involved in (like being President) should be a ministry.


Rom 13:1-6 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ORDAINED of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the MINISTER of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the MINISTER of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's MINISTERS, attending continually upon this very thing.

[Carolinamom]

"Frank says...."

But YOU said something about what Frank said, and the questions (still unanswered) directed to you were about what YOU said.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

"Frank (Gaffney) told me never to drop names."

[justshe]

I'm #1, ohioWfan is #2, and cyncooper is #3.

As a wise man said to you on this thread, "Sheesh. Get a grip Todd."