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<< So, in your mind, a president's administration is the equivalent of a ministry? >>

To answer for CC - YES, government is supposed to be a ministry. And when one is a Christian, anything they're involved in (like being President) should be a ministry.

Rom 13:1-6 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ORDAINED of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the MINISTER of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the MINISTER of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's MINISTERS, attending continually upon this very thing.

To answer for CC - YES, government is supposed to be a ministry.

Don't look now, but your friend just said it wasn't the equivalent of ministry. Oops! (Didn't know President Bush was supposed to examine the spiritual walk of every person he appoints, and make sure it lines up with his own. This is all news to me.)

So if a whole bunch of holy people were getting ready to stone a homosexual, do you suppose that Jesus would walk up to you and hand you some rocks? Or maybe he would say something like, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?"