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TALE OF TWO LAWERS (Feldmand vs. Dusek) DEFEATED and DECIETFUL.(VD's SKATE FREE TO SWING AGAIN)
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Posted on 08/22/2002 11:32:19 PM PDT by FresnoDA

TALE OF TWO LAWYERS......

Defense lawyer Steven Feldman enters the Hall of Justice in San Diego Wednesday Aug. 21, 2002 to hear the verdict of his client David Westerfield. Westerfield was found guilty of kidnapping and murdering Danielle van Dam. (AP Photo/Ric Francis)Prosecutor Jeff Dusek enters the San Diego Hall of Justice Wednesday Aug. 21, 2002 to hear the verdict in the murder and kidnapping trial of David Westerfield.. Westerfield was found guilty of the kidnapping and murder of Danielle van Dam. (AP Photo/Ric Francis)

DEFEATED and DECIETFUL



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To: Jaded
ALso, I would have to ask...was damon concerned that the perp was amongst the searchers? If so, I bet that could have made him freakout and look spooky to people who met him. Don't you think everyone was a suspect to him for at least a little while? Think about it....his daughter is still missing and strangers were helping the search party. Anyone of them could have been the perp or the perps assistant. Did he wonder? Do engineers have analytical minds who "over" think things?
1,421 posted on 08/28/2002 7:53:24 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Kim, I just pushed "Abuse." Sorry you're having to deal with this - if you want me to do the other thing, I will.
1,422 posted on 08/28/2002 9:03:53 AM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: small_l_libertarian
that's ok.... I would do it again in a heart beat.

IN other words, I don't mind at all.

Glad to see you back! The DW hearing is starting..
1,423 posted on 08/28/2002 9:08:21 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: VRWC_minion
Dusek used the cheating example at playing cards to describe that evidence is looked at in its entirety and not picked at individually like those here have done which led them to erroneous conclusions. Dusek's example was apparently effective.

Apparently it was effective. That fact that the judge told the jury to look at each individual piece of evidence, and decide if each piece had merit, then look at the entirety of what was found valid, apparently was MISSED by the JURY and YOU.

DUSEK wanted the JURY to do as you say because only by looking at it as a whole, and ignoring flaws in the pieces, would it hold water. Much like the media's way of judging the case.

I still don't see how I was wrong.

Yeah, I know. It's hard for anyone to be right when the JUDGE and DA and POLICE are allowed to lie and cheat.

The thing that makes me most angry is that we do not really know if DW actually killed Danielle or not. Picking one person, then finding/creating/falsifying evidence to justify having picked that person , instead of finding real evidence and having it lead to the person, has left me with no trust that the real killer has been apprehended. It turned into a show all about MONEY (media,PR TEAM) and POLITICAL GAIN. (DA and MUDD)

1,424 posted on 08/28/2002 9:16:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; Ditter; fussybutt
Hopefully , fussybutt will learn, through either going back to posts of GREG WESTON,or just from his comment, that the best thing to do is ignore him.
He only knows what someone like NASTY GRACE tells him to think. He is a sheeple of the worst kind. He only comes on the VD/DW threads to disrupt. He likes the attention.
So, argue with him at your own risk. He is very rude and needs to have his behind paddled by his momma.
1,425 posted on 08/28/2002 9:20:54 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Greg obviously has an emotional passion about this case, and doesn't take no bs from anyone. But to assume that he gets is info from grace is an insult not necessary. :(
1,426 posted on 08/28/2002 9:22:53 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; Ditter
I dont have the exact testimony in front of me, but the gist of it was that either brenda or damon said layla had frequent nose bleeds..and some folks took that to believe that damon abused the dog. It is speculation as far as I know.

Almost Correct, Kim.

Brenda and Damon said LAYLA had a nosebleed from running into Damon's knee.

Brenda and Damon said Danielle had frequent nosebleeds.

That idea that Damon abused the dog was speculation, based on the fact the Brenda and DAMON are CERTIFIED, UNDER OATH LIARS, so it is very hard to tell what is truth, what is not when they speak, and I have seen dogs ram their nose into many things and never bleed from it.

HOW hard would a dog have to be hit in the nose to cause it to 'bleed all over the place' as the VD's described it?

1,427 posted on 08/28/2002 9:25:32 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Stupid computer!!!

DId you hear anything about the comments dusek just said about PREVIOUS MOLESTION BY DW??
1,428 posted on 08/28/2002 9:31:09 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2
12 YRS AGO WHEN SOMEONE WAS SEVEN.....

??

The mom and/or girl will speak about it??
1,429 posted on 08/28/2002 9:32:45 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2
I will not reply further to any of Weston's insults, but I have pushed the abuse button and will continue to do so for every post that personally attacks or slanders me.

The abuse button is a first for me. If Fresno can be banned for such nonsense as humour, surely Weston should be banned for inflaming personal attacks.
1,430 posted on 08/28/2002 9:33:45 AM PDT by fussybutt
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To: Ditter
>how do you *plant* a fingerprint weeks *before* the body is found. heh heh You don't.

I disagree with you here. The investigators searched/printed Danielle's bedroom, took doors,etc with them. NOW, They didn't find ANY PRINTS of DANIELLE in her own darn bedroom. Not on the mirrors, not on the doors, NOTHING.

KNOW WHY?

Here is one reason. A person could take a print from her room, and transfer it to the MH. BUT, if prints from Danielle's room were entered on record, someone could prove that one of them and the one from the MH were IDENTICAL, thus planted. SO, the way to resolve that is tell everyone YOU DIDN'T FIND ANY PRINTS. Then they can't accuse you of using them to 'plant' in another location when you don't have a body to get them from.

1,431 posted on 08/28/2002 9:34:41 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
On the other thread, redlipstick heard it and said it was jackie's neice.

DW told "someone" that one kid's leg got "stuck" in the pant leg of another child..
1,432 posted on 08/28/2002 9:40:03 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
The dog bed was thrown away cuz the dog chewed it up..

Here is the thing that gripes me KIM. When those that think DW was railroaded say something happened, they are forced to PROVE IT.

So, I would like to ask the same of you. You make hundreds of assumptions about the VD's and believe every word they say, even though it has BEEN PROVEN in COURT and on NATIONAL TV that they are LIARS. REPETITIVE LIARS.

Your statement, about the dog bed. It is all SPECULATION. You do not have one whiff of proof that the DOG CHEWED IT UP. Damon could have thrown it away because it had Daneille's blood all over it. It is just as possible, IS IT NOT ?

1,433 posted on 08/28/2002 9:40:35 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
As I stated the only dogs I have ever seen with nosebleeds had been hit by cars & they were dead. I have seen dogs run into things & bite their tongues & bleed.
1,434 posted on 08/28/2002 9:41:04 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Greg obviously has an emotional passion about this case, and doesn't take no bs from anyone. But to assume that he gets is info from grace is an insult not necessary. :(

I have seen Greg's posts. The evidence SPEAKS for ITSELF. He repeats the same old tired lines over and over and insults people for no reason. He doesn't wish to discuss the issue. He doesn't want to learn anything. He knows it all because NASTY GRACE told him so. That he decides to pick on the DW/VD threads to stand on a soapbox spouting visages of TONS OF EVIDENCE, CHILD MOLESTING KILLER, makes me think he has a lot of self guilt and this is his way of hiding it.

1,435 posted on 08/28/2002 9:46:04 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Following your line of reasoning, the entire house, all the furniture & cars would have had to have been wiped down. (Not to mention her desk at school etc.)
1,436 posted on 08/28/2002 9:46:51 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: UCANSEE2
You are correct, it was testimony...and wasn't disproven and I suppose it wasn't proven?

I would assume that when the investigators looked at it, they would have seen that it was chewed up or tore up..
1,437 posted on 08/28/2002 9:47:15 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
DId you hear anything about the comments dusek just said about PREVIOUS MOLESTION BY DW??

gotta go for a few. So be back in an hour or so.

BUT, where did you get that statement? Never mind, it is in the SENTENCING hearing, isn't it. DUSEK is LYING LYING LYING AGAIN, isn't he KIM? You know that is a LIE and doesn't that show that there is a likelihood this whole case has been a LIE. WHY WOULD HE NEED TO LIE ?

1,438 posted on 08/28/2002 9:48:29 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
On the other thread, redlipstick heard it and said it was jackie's neice. DW told "someone" that one kid's leg got "stuck" in the pant leg of another child..

BULLSH*T of the worst kind. NO ONE TESTIFIED to any of this. WHy didn't they? I can't even fathom the DW told statement. Sounds like another case of embellishing a statement and trying to insist it has a sinister meaning, without there being the slightest amount of proof behind it.

1,439 posted on 08/28/2002 9:51:29 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I would assume that when the investigators looked at it, they would have seen that it was chewed up or tore up..

Assuming what you want without proof is what you say I and others do. Show me where the LE ever looked at the tore up dog bed. Please, I would love to see it.

1,440 posted on 08/28/2002 9:54:12 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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