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Buell and Grant Surprise the Rebels at Shiloh
Civil War Daily Gazette ^ | April 7, 2012 | Eric

Posted on 04/07/2012 6:16:18 PM PDT by Upstate NY Guy

April 7, 1862 (Monday) Pittsburg Landing, Tennessee

General Grant tried to sleep, first under a tree near his men and then in a cabin that he found already occupied with the wounded. Through the night, Union transports and reinforcements arrived at Pittsburg Landing, bringing 25,000 much-needed men. Grant was certain that his line could withstand a Confederate attack. In fact, he was so certain, that he wanted to go on the offensive.

Meanwhile, General Beauregard, now the sole commander of the Confederate Army of Mississippi, slept in General Sherman’s tent, the former owner vacating it as the Rebels attacked the previous day. He had reported to President Davis a “complete victory,” but gave no clue as to how he would follow it up come morning. He had no idea that Union General Buell’s Army of the Ohio had joined Grant’s Army of the Tennessee. His army was scattered, disassociated and worn out. His plan must have been to attack as he took no precautions to defend against a Union assault. He believed he had Grant exactly where he wanted him. And he was wrong.

As the rains fell over friend and foe alike, Grant arrayed his men. He did not, however, command the entire Union force...

(Excerpt) Read more at civilwardailygazette.com ...


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To: BroJoeK

This is laughable. No reputable historian thinks there is any equivalence between the behaviors of the two opposing sides. You are really reaching here. Chambersburg was so memorable because it was an ANOMALY, the exception that proved the rule.


81 posted on 04/11/2012 7:08:31 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nnn0jeh

Ping


82 posted on 04/11/2012 7:13:38 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: central_va
These Southern haters and liars all turn out to be liberals in the end and Jim Robinson eventually zots them. Jim Robinson eventually zots them. It takes forever though....

Well considering I have been here 10 years longer than you, I guess it takes a long-long time. ;~))

I don't hate the South, and no one has ever accused me of being a liberal. I'm just a guy who likes my history just like I like my whiskey, straight, and not doctored up with the ancestor worshiping fantasy stuff and nonsensical rants that you rely on.

83 posted on 04/11/2012 7:49:29 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Ditto; central_va

Having exhausted his pitiful array of “arguments” cva has fallen back on calling anyone he disagrees with a liberal - the last resort of a loser.


84 posted on 04/11/2012 8:11:23 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: central_va; rockrr; Ditto
central_va: "Chambersburg was so memorable because it was an ANOMALY, the exception that proved the rule."

In fact, the experience of Pennsylvania at Chambersburg and other towns was typical of every state which bordered the Confederacy.

From the beginning of the war, the Confederacy sent troops into every bordering state -- Maryland, Pennsylvania, Western Virginia, Kentucky, Missouri, Oklahoma, New Mexico and even distant states like Kansas and Colorado.

In every case, Confederate forces lived off the land and took what they needed from local populations.

My point are:
  1. The Confederacy invaded, destroyed and stole property from every state or territory adjoining it, and some further removed.

  2. Both Union and Confederate armies sometimes left trails of pillage and destruction in their wakes.

  3. Sure, by standards of other wars, civilian losses were relatively small and insignificant.

  4. But it is simply not true to claim that one side was guilty and the other entirely innocent.

They both did it.

85 posted on 04/12/2012 5:22:38 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
They both did it.

A distortion. You believe what you want. More reconstructed history nothing more, nothing less.

86 posted on 04/12/2012 7:52:55 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: KoRn

I agree...as far as I’m concerned this current government is our ultimate enemy....it makes me wonder what could have been under different circumstances.


87 posted on 04/12/2012 7:55:18 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: jmacusa

There is absolute nothing wrong with Central’s complaint about things as they are now. The Civil War was mostly about attitudes and preference between North and South coupled with slavery issues. This war ended and the North won and things evolved into what most would consider a stronger nation.

However, this ‘nation’ has been under assault for decades by liberals and Democrats. They have hooked millions of descendants, new immigrants, indigenous citizens and, yes, illegals, on LARGESSE. Its history has been perverted and used for liberal purposes because the media and our education system are willing liars.

Likewise, accusing him/her of ‘living in a parent’s basement’ is an uncalled-for epithet. I don’t care where you are from and how long you’ve been here. Feelings about what this country has become and central_va doesn’t have to any-damned-where...if you want to shut him up, do it with logic, reason and real arguments.


88 posted on 04/12/2012 8:06:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

You think you’ve got the lock on whats wrong with America? Buzz off pal. I’ve been called worse by central than anything I’ve ever launched at him. I’ve even had my life threatened here. Who ask you to fight his battles? He has no love of this nation and constantly waves that Stars and Bars in my face so I’ll tell you too, piss off.


89 posted on 04/12/2012 8:22:48 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

You can piss off. You have no idea what he loves. Go tell your parents somebody called you out and sulk off to YOUR basement.


90 posted on 04/12/2012 8:25:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Listen stupid, for a guy who claims that he ‘’deserves a better country’’ he’s full of it. He comes to a conservative republican web-site venerating a bunch of Dixiecrats like Jefferson Davis, claims to be a patriot and waves the Stars and Bars in my face. I know what he loves, he’s made it clear several times before and it isn’t America or the Stars and Stripes so butt out.


91 posted on 04/12/2012 11:01:38 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa
I’ve even had my life threatened here


92 posted on 04/12/2012 11:08:29 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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93 posted on 04/12/2012 12:43:29 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Terry Mross
Their descendents inherited nothing. I knew some of them. One of the Cleburnes was a barber.

Cleburne never married and had no children. It may have been the descendant of one of his siblings.

94 posted on 04/12/2012 5:01:56 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Must have been. I was a long time aqo. Maybe he said he was related to Cleburne. The Battle Of Helena was very important but didn’t get much press.


95 posted on 04/12/2012 5:12:47 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: central_va

So that’s what you look like.


96 posted on 04/12/2012 8:30:00 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: central_va
A divided country North and South, if it happened 150 years ago - by now the North would at best be a Euro Socialist state.

If anything, the North would've been flooded by illegal aliens from the South.

97 posted on 04/12/2012 9:11:42 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
If anything, the North would've been flooded by illegal aliens from the South.

Works both ways, we wouldn't be constantly invaded by Northern Libtards who bring their communism with them.

98 posted on 04/13/2012 5:39:29 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jmacusa

Have you called the FBI about those constant threats? LOL.


99 posted on 04/13/2012 5:43:08 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

“Libtards” who denied you your God-given right to own slaves? I can see why you are upset. That labor is cheap.


100 posted on 04/13/2012 5:43:36 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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