Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms date accepted and date filed on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms Date accepted by the State Registrar and Date filed by the State Registrar referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of Oahu or on the neighbor islands of Kauai, Hawaii, Maui, Molokai, or Lanai), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of Oahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the Date filed by the State Registrar is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obamas Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
You didn’t answer my question....mentally retarded or hates America.
I am starting to think it is the first one mentioned.
We (Americans) are losing are right to freedom on a daily basis.
I am not mad because my horse in the race lost. I am mad because this nightmare (YES NIGHTMARE), socialist takeover of my Country has happened.
Get off of your high horse. You are not that important in the grand scheme of things. Here on FR or in the world.
You just bother me like a fly at a picnic.
I love my Country. You mock it.
You need to grow up and wake up. (if you care)
Or shut-up.
The head? Let’s say that BP2 is one of the best researchers and posters on FR. You can only dream of being 1/100th as intelligent and BP2 will chew you up and spit you out.
GET LOST PUNK, your 3rd person crap isn’t funny, it’s getting real old. It’s not cute, you aren’t in kindergarten anymore. Or are you?
LOL LOL!!!!!
Indeed, and he tries to cover it up by acting like a 5 year old. He’s beginning to creep me out.
Now that is interesting. I can’t say if he ever said he was or not, but I’m going to look. It seems to me he and his pals always say he was “from Hawaii”.
Keep reporting him. The mods can’t be everywhere.
You are exactly right and I’ve said it over and over again. What they don’t realize is that all of the really relevant information and research never shows up on the open forum. It goes on behind the scenes and is in the hands or competent people that know what to do with it. They are here to “fish”. The more information they can get, the more they can try to destroy and cover up information.
Yes, Okubo has made so many contradictory statements that we can’t trust anything she says. That’s been my point. That’s why we need an investigation.
Taking her at her word, she has now twice confirmed that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery.
Why won’t any of the people who so quickly jumped to the conclusion that she had confirmed the Factcheck COLB listen to her now? When the official keepers of the records are making official statements which reveal there’s been a forgery by the commander-in-chief that should get more than a snore in response.
I do believe that she is correct when she said that the state number is given at the state registrar’s office, though. I believe it because it matches the records I’ve seen. The range of certificate numbers from Kapiolani, for instance, is from 974 to 15,396. But Kaiser (Queens) also had a certificate number of 9,351.
I don’t have enough certificate numbers and dates to do a thorough analysis, obviously, but what I have shows a pattern of calendar chronology between all the hospitals together rather than blocks of numbers being set aside for particular hospitals.
If I can get access to more data it would be helpful. But what I have so far tends to confirm what Okubo said rather than what Ender Wiggins’ friend was able to learn from 2 1/2 hours at a closed DOH office.
Odd way to say it don’t you think? To follow up the statement with “That’s absolutely true”. How odd.
Why would you go to so much trouble and waste so much of your time on something you believe is BS?
I’m sorry. I didn’t see any question marks in #638. But, now that you mention it.....
Just like a birther to offer false choices. Let’s see I could be a ‘tard or a commie. Those two choices have been presented by a birther, who having suspicions that I may be one or the other, limits his subsequent field of inquiry to those two choices.
Once again, the self-generated little Birther world, where their suspicions become the only possible reality.
How ‘bout, I think the birther stuff is pretty much nonsense and don’t mind saying so??? That’s an alternative I was NOT given. Yet, it is true. You see, your birther world isn’t as self contained as you like.
And when somebody threatens your little self contained world, you start calling them names. That is a self defense mechanism known as “denial”. It is very primitive. It is not cool.
And, no, we Americans are not losing our right to freedom on a daily basis any more than when Bush was president, and perhaps even less, since Crap and Played hasn’t passed yet, nor Obamacare. And if they do pass, then the rights we lose can be regained via the election process.
So, if you love your country, why not get off the birther stuff and quit making anybody who opposes Obama look like a goober. We are getting tarred with your brush.
parsy, who ain’t intimidated
Because nobody wants to argue about creationism or tort reform.
I don’t dislike bp2. I don’t even dislike you. I disagree with both of you and will say so.
parsy, who says, So there!
Hey. You're the one who asked for a quote. If you really didn't (want) one after all, that's your problem. Wiggy — WHOA — don't get your panties tied up in a knot! YOU'RE the one basing your assumptions upon the CREDIBILITY of a PROVEN LIAR, whose “birth certificate” was given TO partisan hacks BY partisan hacks. Vent your frustrations at Obama.
OBAMA is the one who deserves your ire. |
I want to see Neil Abercrombie investigated.
He “read” on video the letter he delivered from Obama to Kapiolani saying Obama was born there. Let’s just say it was a “creative” rendition of what was supposedly on the page. I think it was a charity fraud scam, and that Abercrombie is one of the crooks in the bigger story.
He quit his position as US Representative for Hawaii so he could go back to Hawaii and “campaign” - even though he was way ahead in the polls. I think he was sent to help do the dirty work necessary to keep all the bureaucrats and judges in Hawaii drinking the kool-aid.
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